LSU Recap and Preview
I will not be giving any details about the Bulldogs, just about what is going on with LSU. I have updated my Rivalry Series blog in light of the upcoming game though.
LSU has either lost to or barely beat the Bulldogs in every game recently except for the two years in which Joe Burrow was the starting quarterback. If we win at all, I’ll be satisfied. If we win somewhat comfortably, I’ll be very encouraged. A loss won’t necessarily be devastating, but LSU should beat unranked SEC opponents at home (even though I think the Bulldogs should be ranked) even in a mediocre year. I know it’s easier said than done, but it should be an expectation.
One of the LSU shows found the biggest LSU naysayer they could. Even he picked LSU to win this game (and lose all the other SEC games). So while I do think the Bulldogs are underrated, I won’t be resting easy if LSU loses.
Usually I’d barely mention an FCS opponent, but I hope it gave the coaches more data to make better decisions in the future. What was done in the Southern game may also be a bit of a preview of what they’ll try to do against Mississippi St. I’m not going to preview the Bulldogs though.
LSU did shore up some concerns in the game against Southern even though obviously what works against Southern may not work in ANY future games. I think we can compare it to an NFL preseason game. Cuts to an NFL roster and to some extent decisions about plays and the depth chart are made based on performances against opposition players who themselves often aren’t going to be playing a whole lot in the NFL. Similarly, most Southern players could not get meaningful playing time at an SEC school (though a couple of former FCS players play for Florida St. and at least one plays for LSU). But I think going through the motions of a game against at least some competitive athletic talent can tell you a little bit.
It certainly gives you a basis for comparison of one player to another. It provides some data points by which to determine who plays where in future games. Coaches have a better idea of whom they can trust during the game. You can’t always know that from practices and scrimmages alone.
I don’t know if the new center Charles Turner will be better than Garrett Dellinger, the center in the Florida St. game; but I didn’t notice any problems with snaps, and the coaches seem to like how he communicated. Dellinger will still get a lot of playing time, but it will just be at guard instead. I don’t think anyone is pretending we know how well Turner will block an SEC defensive lineman at center because he did an adequate job against Southern, but they could see how he handled the game environment and worked with his teammates.
Jayden Daniels did leave the game early enough that I think we were able to get some information about where he is compared to the backup Nussmeier. Kelly said before the Florida St. game that they were 1-A and 1-B rather than 1 and 2 on the depth chart. I’m pretty sure that was a lie. We didn’t see Nussmeier at all in the Florida St. game even after the Tigers.
LSU only came up with 3 points in the first half; and although Nussmeier ended up throwing for more yards against Southern, he completed only 59% of his passes compared to Daniels’s 91%. Daniels did not commit a turnover in either game, and Nussmeier threw two interceptions. Daniels threw three touchdowns, and Nussmeier threw none. I don’t always think QBR is that great of a stat, but when one guy is near 100 and the other is under 20, I think that sums it up pretty well.
Again, I’m not banking on this counting for anything; but the starters did absolutely all they could. It has been 129 years since LSU first played intercollegiate football, and the Tigers had never scored 37 points in a quarter before. It only took 40 seconds of the second quarter to get to 44 points. As for the defense, Southern didn’t score until one of those Nussmeier interceptions was returned late in the third quarter. The LSU defense didn’t give up points until about 8 minutes remained in the game. That was probably the third or fourth team by then.
Some players who weren’t even starters in the first game played great. For instance, the game ball went to Micah Baskerville, who blocked a punt (which resulted in a safety) and returned an interception for a touchdown. I’m told he was only in about a dozen plays against Florida St. I don’t care if it was against easy competition, doing both of those things in the same season is hard to do, not to mention the same quarter. Freshman 5-star recruit Harold Perkins, Jr., whom LSU just barely kept from going to Texas A&M, had a good game too with 7 tackles.
Malik Nabors was relieved of punt-return duties after two turnovers in that role against Florida St., but it was nice to see him score a touchdown on one pass and go for 60 yards on another. Even if the latter were his only catch, Nabors would have led both teams in receiving yards. It’s good that the ball was spread around by both quarterbacks too. Hopefully it will keep the receivers more engaged and facilitate better communication and trust than we saw against Florida St.
Also, importantly, LSU had no major injuries and a couple of key players are actually available against Mississippi St. when they were not against Southern. This includes RB Jon Emery, Jr., and DE BJ Ojulari. DE Ali Gaye was suspended for a half for targeting, so he will be back as well.
Top 3
This first section ties into last week about certain SEC opponents looking more like winnable games than they did at first blush, but it’s also relevant as to why I’ve made a change at #1. I did think it was a little unfair that Alabama had to play Georgia in a rematch, but maybe it was the SEC championship game that was the aberration last year.
Alabama has rebounded from looking vulnerable and even losing in September before; but even if by some miracle LSU had been able to convince Saban to come back (there is a contingent of LSU fans who had been trying to orchestrate that for 15 years… I think they finally gave up now that Kelly has a 9-figure contract and Saban is 70 years old), we probably would have had to start thinking about the future by now anyway. Alabama may still win the national title, but the close win over Texas can be added to the following somewhat concerning close games last season (with final record of opponent and margin of victory):
7-6 Florida, 2 points
8-4 Texas A&M, LOST by 3 points
6-7 LSU, 6 points
9-4 Arkansas, 7 points
6-7 Auburn, 2 points
I haven’t changed my mind about Oregon (Georgia’s big win) being overrated in preseason. I would have liked to have seen more Georgia Bulldog offense against Samford, but the defense can’t do anything better than a shutout.
The reason I made the change is that Alabama won by a single point (and as I mentioned probably deserved to lose), and obviously the shine is taken off of Ohio St.’s win over Notre Dame given the Marshall game. A team can win by one possession in a fluke, but the Irish had to score in the final moments of the game just to make it close. So that’s really a similar type of game to what the Irish did in Columbus.
Remainder of Top 25
The rest of the top 10 remained intact. Kentucky had a decisive road win against Florida, so that’s why the Wildcats moved up so much. BYU’s win over Baylor was at home in overtime, and Baylor was one of the teams I was doubtful about (along with Texas A&M, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma St.). The Cougars still got credit for beating a ranked team but not as much as what Kentucky did.
Apart from Baylor (whom I didn’t want to drop double digits for an understandable close loss), the rest of the top 20 is made up of teams who moved up by default.
Marshall is obvious. Oregon St. may not be, but I had Boise St. as one of the top unranked teams going into the season, and the Beavers beat the Broncos handily in Week 1. Last week, Oregon St. went on the road to Fresno St. (who won 10 games last year) and won, albeit in a close contest.
Tennessee wasn’t great against Pittsburgh, but it’s still a Power 5 road win, so I gave the Vols the Panthers’ former spot.
Houston was also on my waiting list in preseason, so I went ahead and gave Texas Tech a spot for beating the Cougars.
Iowa St. didn’t look a whole lot better than South Dakota St. had against Iowa (both games in Iowa City); but the Jackrabbits were one of the best FCS teams last year. As for the Cyclones, while they had needed the Hawkeyes to miss a field goal to escape with the win, I was still impressed by the defense. Iowa’s one score was on a very short field.
I give Texas A&M some credit for their defense against Appalachian St. (who put up 40 points in one quarter against North Carolina after all) as well and considered leaving the Aggies in the Top 25 instead. Although I do think the Aggies would likely beat the Cylones, 2-0 beats 1-1. Texas A&M will go ahead of the Cyclones with a win this weekend anyway, so I also don’t mind giving Iowa St. the benefit of the doubt for now.
Speaking of the Aggies, I learned a couple of facts I wanted to share. (1) Jimbo Fisher makes more than 20 times as much per year as Appalachian St. head coach Shawn Clark. (2) Texas A&M has 56 players who were either 4- or 5-star recruits out of high school, but Appalachian St. has just 1.
Rank | Team | Last |
1 | Georgia | 3 |
2 | Alabama | 1 |
3 | Ohio St. | 2 |
4 | Clemson | 4 |
5 | Michigan St. | 5 |
6 | Michigan | 6 |
7 | Ole Miss | 7 |
8 | Arkansas | 8 |
9 | Oklahoma St. | 9 |
10 | Oklahoma | 10 |
11 | Kentucky | 20 |
12 | B. Young | 17 |
13 | Cincinnati | 13 |
14 | Miss. St. | 16 |
15 | TX Christian | 18 |
16 | N. Carolina St. | 19 |
17 | U. Miami | 21 |
18 | Wake Forest | 22 |
19 | Baylor | 11 |
20 | Maryland | 25 |
21 | Marshall | — |
22 | Oregon St. | — |
23 | Tennessee | — |
24 | Texas Tech | — |
25 | Iowa St. | — |
— | Texas A&M | 12 |
— | Notre Dame | 14 |
— | Iowa | 15 |
— | Pittsburgh | 23 |
— | Florida | 24 |
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Week 3 Top 25 & Miss. St. Reaction
In College Football, General LSU, Post-game, Rankings, Rankings Commentary on September 20, 2022 at 6:17 PMI’ll start with LSU-Mississippi St. since there was nothing too earth-shattering elsewhere. Both the Mississippi St. and Auburn entries of my Rivalry Series are updated.
The game Saturday was similar to some other recent games in the series in that one team dominated the first stretch of the game and another team dominated another. Examples are when Mississippi St. held onto a win in 2014 and when LSU held onto wins in 2015 and 2016. The difference here was the switch took place late in the first half rather than late in the second half and that not only did the team who did well initially not hold on, they ended up losing by double digits.
After LSU received the kickoff and earned a couple of first downs before being forced to punt, Mississippi St. scored on its first offensive possession. The Bulldogs did need to convert a 4th and 1 from their own 22 but did not face a third down after that on the drive. PK Ben Raybon missed the extra point wide right though.
None of the next several drives by either team went very far. The offense would get maybe one or two first downs but would still be forced to punt after that. The only good opportunity to score was when LSU took over at the Mississippi St. 29 after a fourth-down attempt was unsuccessful, but then Daniels and Williams had miscommunication on a handoff/play action and the resulting fumble was recovered by State.
The first half ended with some drama. Punter Jay Bramblett (44.8 average, 2 punts inside the 20) had a good kick, nearly 50 yards, but it was returned by Zavion Thomas for 26 yards to give the Bulldogs the ball in LSU territory. The first play from scrimmage was a 35-yard rush by Dillon Johnson, after which State QB Will Rogers was able to complete a touchdown to Rara Thomas to give the Bulldogs a 13-0 lead.
As had happened at the end of the game against Florida St. two weeks before, LSU’s offensive woes seemed to melt away when they moved into the hurry-up offense after receiving the subsequent kickoff with only 2:14 remaining in the half. LSU QB Jayden Daniels was 4-4 in the air (albeit for 27 yards) and also ran for 48 yards in the touchdown drive that only lasted 1:28.
It was not apparent at this point that LSU would dominate the rest of the game, but that was an easy place to draw the line as far as a turning point in hindsight as LSU would only give up three points after that.
After Mississippi St. had to punt after one first down to open the second half, Daniels picked up right where he left off. At least this worked to lead LSU from its own 13 to field goal range, at which time he threw three incompletions; but at least the field goal was good, making the score 13-10.
Another good return by Mississippi St. (which was even better before a penalty cost them about 60 yards) did shift the momentum back somewhat. After the Bulldogs converted 3rd-and-longs, it was like the LSU defense went into lockdown mode. Mississippi St. was forced to settle for a field goal on fourth and 16, returning the lead to 6. The Bulldogs would not get another first down until the last few minutes of the game though.
The LSU offense wasn’t so dominant right away though. After only one first down on the next drive (one of Daniels’s longer passes, for 15 yards), the Tigers went for it on fourth down from midfield, and it was a rather weak incompletion. The Bulldogs’ next drive ended the exact same way after no first downs. Then Daniels engineered one first down in the air before the LSU offense stalled yet again.
This time, they punted, and Austin Williams could not handle it. It was recovered by the LSU long snapper Slade Roy who had made it downfield and was watching the attempted catch. This gave LSU a first and goal. After a false start backed them up, it took three rushing plays, but Daniels kept the ball himself on the second two and bounced around and into the end zone on third down giving LSU its first lead of the game on the second play of the fourth quarter.
Even though the field position wasn’t great on the next drive, the confidence seemed to carry over. LSU would convert a 3rd-and-5, 3rd-and-1, and 3rd-and-3 all in the air. On the subsequent 3rd-and-10, Daniels completed another pass, to RB Josh Williams; but it was not enough for a first down. Despite the failure on fourth down earlier and despite the fact that it was probably a makable field goal, LSU went for it. They were rewarded when a jump ball was caught by WR Malik Nabers (the game’s leading receiver) for 27 yards. Williams then punched in the touchdown to put LSU up 8.
Rogers then threw three straight incompletions for the Bulldogs, leading to another punt. LSU was forced into a 3rd-and-8 on the next set of downs, but Daniels still seemed to maintain the same confidence and ran for the first down this time. The next play after that, even though they got a breather with an injury timeout, the State defense seemed helpless as RB Armoni Goodwin ran up the middle for 47 yards, giving the Tigers the final margin of 31-16. Jay Ward had a key interception on the next drive to end the last meaningful threat by the Bulldogs.
For the game, Mississippi St. was only 3/14 on third down and 1/4 on fourth down. LSU was only 6/15 on third down but converted 6 of the last 7. The Tigers’ only fourth down attempts were the two I mentioned, and one was converted.
This was the second straight game against major-conference competition when LSU scored 20 points or more in the last 15:08 of the game (41 total). This compares to a total of 13 points combined in the two games in the first 44:52. It would have been easier to explain if LSU had waited 8 more seconds to score a touchdown against Florida St., but you get the idea. LSU also had the ball for 11 minutes and 20 seconds of the fourth quarter. Maybe for the next SEC game they should scrimmage for 30-40 minutes before the game starts. If Auburn (see Rivalry Series) plays like they did against Penn St., it may not be necessary though.
On that note, I’ll move on to discussion of the top 25…
Top 25 Discussion
I will be on vacation next week, so even though it’s early in the season to even look at potential computer ratings, I wanted to start incorporating them now so there is a better transition into next week’s ranking. Then in the following two weeks rankings start to become completely objective.
So that explains some of the teams that fell In the rankings without losing or even necessarily playing badly. For instance, Oklahoma St. has only played two FBS opponents and neither of those has a win over another FBS team. They didn’t have to win at the last minute, but they didn’t beat those teams by impressive scores either. The Cowboys have a week off before facing Baylor the next week. Even if they win that one, I don’t see any way they will be able to substantiate a high ranking even then. TCU also has a bad early schedule.
In my trial run of the computer rankings, there were 4 top-25 teams from the Pac-12. I didn’t see any reason to exclude any of the four from this list even though only one was ranked going into the week. In light of Oregon’s win over BYU, maybe that’s proof that Georgia is just that good, and I shouldn’t have dropped the Ducks out of the top 25 for that loss even though I was initially skeptical of the Bulldogs’ being nearly as good as last year. Of the four, I’m still most skeptical of USC, but I ranked the Trojans a few spots ahead of the Beavers (settle down) because they had a relatively easy time against Fresno St., a common opponent. I was also impressed by Washington’s win over Michigan St., who has a lot back from last year.
I didn’t rank Penn St. because I think Auburn is great, but they’re not a cupcake, and having three wins over FBS opponents puts the Nittany Lions in select company at this point. Syracuse (whose best win is 1-2 Louisville) is the only unranked team below that you can say that about.
The only huge step up I didn’t cover is North Carolina St., which did have a narrow win over East Carolina in Week 1; but it’s a win that looks pretty good right now. With the win over Texas Tech last week, the Wolf Pack has one of the best two-win combinations, especially for both wins to be out of conference.
I think the rest is easy enough to understand.
Here are a few undefeated teams to watch who for now are not ranked but could be if they keep winning and as the rankings become more objective: UCLA (didn’t like the South Alabama game, but margin of victory doesn’t count for much later in the season), Indiana, Florida St., Tulane, James Madison, Duke, Syracuse, Washington St., and Kansas.
Some teams who are in position to bounce back from early losses are Illinois, Wyoming, Mississippi St., Liberty, UL-Lafayette, SMU, Iowa, and East Carolina.
LSU isn’t on that second list right now, but obviously if Mississippi St. and Florida St. continue to do well, the Tigers will have a good chance once SEC play resumes. I’m just not sure LSU will look great in the computers even with wins in the next two games (a win at Jordan-Hare would be a great step, but it won’t necessarily mean anything in the computer). The Tigers are still very average in FBS at this point given how many teams are in the following categories: no losses at all, one loss to a team that (for now) appears better than Florida St., one loss that might be worse but with a win or wins that look better than LSU’s wins.
Top 25