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Week 10 Top 25 2023

In College Football, General LSU, Rankings, Rankings Commentary on November 8, 2023 at 4:51 PM

I mentioned in the last blog that my ratings were delayed this week.  I realized while I was compiling them that not enough credit was being given for playing a series of good opponents.  I’m ok with giving undefeated teams or teams with very good records against mediocre to bad opponents the benefit of the doubt, but I’m not OK with James Madison being #6, Liberty being #11, and Troy being #17.  I think if any of those teams played a random selection of top 25 opponents every week, their record would be about 1-9 or 2-8 right now.  

Adjusted Approach to Top 25 and Possibly to Ratings

In recent years I added what I called weights to “good” games. 

To explain how this came about, my original formula from about 18 years ago was sort of based on a 10-point scale.  If you beat every team you played and those teams beat every team they played apart from you, you’d be between 9 and 10 depending on how good the opponents of the teams you beat were.  This was the entire rating at first, but it later became sort of the first round where I used that number to decide how much credit you got for a win or how much you got subtracted for a loss. 

Realistically the best teams can hope to be around 7 (Ohio St. right now is 6.676).  So what I did with the “weights” was if you played teams better than 5 points (which right now is 14 teams), you’d have a certain number added to your overall rating.  Another 16 teams are between 4.25 and 5, so I would add a smaller number for playing those teams. 

This was regardless of whether you won or lost because you already lost points, so getting some of them back because it’s a good team isn’t a bad thing.  I don’t just want to reward beating them.  I wouldn’t want to reward Texas for beating Alabama and losing to Kansas St. (if the Longhorns had lost over the weekend) where I would not reward another team (like LSU) for beating Missouri and losing to Alabama. I actually think it’s better if you consistently beat teams lower than you and only fall short if you have a very good opponent.

Anyway, I’m starting to question if that’s the best approach.  Wherever I draw the line is ultimately going to be kind of arbitrary. I mentioned the 5-point thing.  Kansas is 4.98.  How much less credit should you get for beating them than you do for beating Louisville at 5.01?

I also didn’t want to go backwards and introduce more subjectivity on my part.  What I decided to do was just to add that initial number to what I have been publishing as the computer ratings.  I could only use a fraction of that number because the other ratings right now tops out at 0.93.  For most top 25 teams, the largest number is about 10x the smallest number, so I though the fairest thing to do was divide the largest number by 10 and then add the two together.

I’m still giving myself the leeway to move teams up to three spots for the top 25.  I might go down to two next week, and I will let you know if I made a change to the published ratings.  I want to see how it plays out.  Sometimes when I make changes, they’re great for one week but I quickly see problems going from one week to the next.  That’s fine for my top 25, but I don’t think it’s good for the computer rating.  It’s good to be able to compare numbers over longer periods of time. 

Big Picture for LSU after Bama Loss

I had a couple other quick thoughts about Saturday’s game. I’ve mentioned LSU’s personnel issues on defense. I also mentioned that the LSU defense was put in a really difficult spot in the fourth quarter when Alabama received the ball at the LSU 25 after an interception only a few seconds on the clock after the previous Alabama offensive drive (3 minutes and 65 yards).

I don’t blame Jayden Daniels for trying to make a play, the ball getting tipped, etc., but giving up a touchdown after the quick turnaround is not proof of a bad defense in that moment. No LSU fan goes on about how bad the 2019 defense was, and no one wanted Dave Aranda to be fired; but LSU gave up 41 points in that game. The Tigers gave up three touchdowns in the fourth quarter and the SHORTEST touchdown drive was 75 yards. I highly doubt that if Joe Burrow threw an interception two plays after one of those drives that the defense would have stopped the Tide from scoring.

“Hot seat” isn’t nearly dramatic enough for Baton Rouge media personalities when they get worked up about something.

So I’m not on the “Fire Matt House” bandwagon that others are on. I know that in hindsight we should have tried to spy more because knowing what we know now, the offense didn’t get close to enough points for the defense that we played. Maybe LSU would have gotten lucky and there would have been a bunch of drops and bad passes. However, we don’t know if more open receivers would have backfired. I don’t hear anyone saying Nick Saban and his defensive coach are incompetent for sacrificing QB rushing yards for more pass coverage. Jayden Daniels ran for more yards than Jalen Milroe, and the former left the game with 13 minutes left.

If both teams had scored in the 40s in an LSU win like four years ago, everyone would be happy. But LSU commentators are going on the radio or on YouTube and saying giving up 40+ to Alabama is never OK regardless.

Even though he’s one of those who I think has been too much of an alarmist about the defense, Matt Moscona pointed out an interesting thing Kelly has been dealing with. You’d think no matter how badly things went off the rails, if you take over a team less than two years after a national championship, you’d have a pretty good recruiting class coming of age. But no, there are only three players left who were recruited in the wake of that championship. The rest of the team is either players Kelly brought in or players that came to play for a team that was going .500. The older players in the subsequent classes who stayed with the team are great. I always have a soft spot for overachiever types, but to think there isn’t a significant talent gap just because we escaped with a win over Alabama last year is silly. Having a better personality and recruiting in a better location than Saban was only getting Coach O so far.

Speaking of which, I want to compare with Saban for a moment. Saban went 26-12 (68.4%) in his first three years at LSU. Kelly is at 69.5% right now. Pretty good for having almost no junior class last year and almost no senior class this year. LSU has a chance to go 4-0, but let’s say they go 3-1 the rest of the way. That would give Kelly a 70.4% mark going into next season. In his last three Division I stops, there was a significant improvement in year three; but even if there isn’t, far too many fans are overreacting.

Granted, LSU had a worse record the two years before they hired Saban than they did the two years before they hired Kelly, but there wasn’t a transfer portal back then. There were good players who had come in after respective 9- and 10-win seasons in 1996 and 1997 who didn’t have a good option other than to stick it out. (By the way, there was only an 11-game regular season back then.). Gerry DiNardo, Saban’s predecessor, won 69.7% over his first three years, so it’s not like Saban blew away anything anyone had seen in recent years right away.

To make some less big-picture comments and get back to the rankings, I think it still makes sense to put Texas ahead of Alabama.  That may change if Oklahoma loses again and LSU wins out.  I’ve mentioned that LSU can get some meaningful positive points in each of the next few weeks.  They’ll definitely be favored in the next two and they haven’t lost to Texas A&M in Baton Rouge since 1994 (the year before DiNardo started), so chances are pretty high they’ll be favored in that one too.  Unfortunately, Georgia St. (who is in between Florida and Texas A&M) has lost two in a row though.  They still may be the second-best team in Georgia.

College Football Playoff Rankings

I think it’s ridiculous that the committee thinks Oregon is the top one-loss team. The Ducks have the 82nd-best schedule. I know they played undefeated Washington, but the Huskies have played the #99 schedule. I don’t even factor in opponents’ opponents’ records as much as many similar blogs do. Some count that equally to opponents’ record because it’s a much narrower range from team to team. Utah, the Ducks’ best win, has a top-50 schedule but two losses.

The big difference comes after Oregon’s marquee win. The highest-rated opponent after that is Colorado, which is #69 overall. Alabama and Penn St. have each beaten four teams who are better than Colorado. Ole Miss, Texas, and Louisville have each beaten five teams who are better than Colorado. I can understand giving some credit for having one close loss to an undefeated team, but it shouldn’t compensate for about every other game being against a team in the top half of the FBS versus about 20% of games being against such teams. Any other team that’s a candidate for the college football playoff would be all but guaranteed to be 8-2 against the Ducks’ schedule, and most would probably beat Utah, my number 20 and the CFP’s #18.

I also don’t think Oregon St., who played no one of note out of conference, is close to the best 2-loss team. I don’t know where they get the idea the Pac-12 is so great. Arizona lost to Mississippi St. and is now half a game out of third place. Notre Dame has suffered a third loss now, but they beat USC (who actually is third place) easily. Wins over Wisconsin and TCU (albeit by lesser teams) have lost their luster.

There isn’t reason to get too annoyed yet, but the committee’s disregard of quality of opponents is something to watch out for going forward.

Comments about My Top 25

I think Purdue is better than their record, but Michigan hasn’t added as many points per week as other major-conference teams do on average.  Even with USC’s struggles, they’re worth a lot more than Purdue.  Alabama and Texas both added high-quality wins as well.  Texas was a lot closer to losing at the end, but I don’t factor that in.  

Georgia and Michigan can each get a good number of points next week though.  Penn St. (who is playing Michigan) and Ole Miss (who is playing Georgia) are right behind them, but neither the Nittany Lions (Rutgers and Michigan St.) nor the Rebels (UL-Monroe and Mississippi St.) have nearly as many potential points to gain in the last two weeks of the season as the Bulldogs (Tennessee and Georgia Tech) and Wolverines (Maryland and Ohio St.) do.

The last time Ole Miss played Georgia, Rebel QB Chad Kelly led the team to a 45-0 lead in Oxford in 2016. Bulldog QB Jacob Eason (right) was only able to complete 44% of his passing attempts and failed to throw a touchdown. Somehow the Bulldogs’ long-awaited chance at revenge is not the SEC game of the week. I wish Ole Miss would go back to those uniforms. by the way.

So if you want to see an SEC team in the playoff, you need to be for Georgia (even if you’d rather see Alabama).  If you want to see a Big Ten team, you need to cheer for Michigan (even if you’d rather see Ohio St.).  I’m not saying the CFP committee always agrees with me, but high-quality wins are usually important to them in the end.  Even if two or three one-loss teams make it, I doubt either one will be Penn St. or Ole Miss.

The order of Kansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St. is mostly explained by what I said earlier about bad losses.

I liked not having to drop Missouri, Kansas St., and LSU too far.  Part of that is due to Tulane and Toledo playing fairly weak opponents (even though Tulane barely won again). Losses by USC and UCLA helped too. 

USC almost stayed in the top 25 given that the Washington loss didn’t hurt much, but there is only so much room for 3-loss teams.  The rest of the honorable mentions are from outside of the major conferences.

They didn’t make the honorable mentions, but Duke, Arizona, North Carolina St., and U. Miami are the other major-conference three-loss teams in the top 40.  North Carolina still only has two losses but has a relatively low schedule strength.  It’s interesting how many ACC teams are in the 30s.  Clemson (despite four losses) has a good chance of joining that group in the next few weeks.

Top 25

RankTeamLast
1 Ohio St. 1
2 Florida St. 2
3 Washington 6
4 Texas 4
5 Alabama 5
6 Michigan 3
7 Georgia 10
8 Ole Miss 7
9 Penn St. 8
10 James Madison 9
11 Oregon 13
12 Kansas 19
13 Oklahoma 11
14 Louisville 20
15 Oklahoma St. 24
16 Missouri 15
17 Liberty 12
18 Utah 16
19 Iowa 17
20 Troy
21 Oregon St. 25
22 Tennessee
23 Notre Dame 14
24 Kansas St. 23
25 LSU 22
Out of Top 25: (18) Southern CA, (21) Air Force

Honorable mention: Tulane, Southern CA, Toledo, Memphis, Fresno St.

2022 Ratings Archive

In College Football, Rankings on October 15, 2023 at 2:42 PM

This is just for housekeeping purposes to make room for the weekly computer ratings that I’m in the process of beginning, so I’m sorry if any subscribers got their hopes up for an actual blog today. Every year I assemble the previous year’s computer ratings into a blog post to add to the general ratings page (where I have now included the first computer rating, though I have not adopted it at my personal top 25). The latest computer rating can be located at any time by clicking the “Knights’ Ratings” heading above. I never got around to publishing the full final ratings for last year, but I did complete the final top 25 in preparation for the first rankings for this year.

12/04/2022

Rank Team Unweighted Rank Weighted Rank Total
1 Georgia 1.467486 1 39.767486 1 100.000000
2 Michigan 1.277718 2 25.577718 8 91.189279
3 TCU 1.115859 3 24.257204 11 85.740527
4 Ohio St. 1.006056 4 20.538678 15 81.503272
5 Southern CA 0.941728 6 29.434368 2 81.142942
6 Tennessee 0.908412 7 23.192901 12 78.877484
7 Clemson 0.953643 5 14.153027 22 78.597141
8 Alabama 0.882166 8 22.743257 13 77.948838
9 Kansas St. 0.847221 9 26.131778 7 77.476409
10 Utah 0.754370 13 29.100189 3 75.064676
11 Penn St. 0.822397 10 11.107334 17 73.821521
12 Tulane 0.774662 12 19.213364 32 73.800494
13 LSU 0.798850 11 3.958283 5 71.745958
14 Troy 0.665127 15 26.730966 55 71.674719
15 Texas 0.621924 17 27.669429 4 70.538970
16 Oregon 0.617364 19 26.260009 6 70.122502
17 Oregon St. 0.621299 18 24.703196 9 69.950507
18 TX San Anton’ 0.702000 14 6.756842 44 69.102059
19 Florida St. 0.635297 16 13.335308 24 68.221470
20 Washington 0.600723 20 13.963309 23 67.232002
21 UCLA 0.544980 22 21.359746 14 66.859947
22 Boise St. 0.582930 21 9.249594 34 65.757562
23 S Carolina 0.512022 23 16.342323 18 64.840540
24 Notre Dame 0.460636 28 24.684201 10 64.789545
25 Mississippi St. 0.488595 25 15.340056 19 63.896481
26 Ole Miss 0.484908 26 14.385329 21 63.595181
27 S. Alabama 0.495104 24 11.728335 28 63.413306
28 N Carolina 0.473536 27 2.178145 61 60.890917
29 C. Florida 0.441547 29 6.816264 43 60.752857
30 N Carolina St. 0.410079 31 9.097199 36 60.179817
31 Fresno St. 0.427167 30 0.521584 46 59.109802
32 Coastal Car. 0.393508 32 6.289218 66 59.085024
33 Kentucky 0.389967 33 3.923988 25 58.584748
34 Cincinnati 0.337528 34 12.926776 56 58.542898
35 Purdue 0.336537 35 5.463950 51 57.122883
36 Louisville 0.297621 41 7.037069 42 56.175100
37 Pittsburgh 0.314902 38 3.251194 57 56.004376
38 Texas Tech 0.304358 39 4.266016 54 55.860369
39 Illinois 0.321274 37 0.638804 65 55.708308
40 Syracuse 0.278690 42 7.422968 40 55.641353
41 Jms Madison 0.333869 36 -3.345980 76 55.349034
42 Wake Forest 0.273016 43 6.718150 45 55.324181
43 Maryland 0.243528 45 11.523258 29 55.298358
44 Wash. St. 0.303536 40 -2.540688 16 54.682893
45 So. Methodist 0.240234 46 8.671840 37 54.646217
46 Air Force 0.175075 54 19.778305 72 54.529645
47 Oklahoma St. 0.212282 50 8.025078 38 53.625022
48 W. Kentucky 0.219847 49 5.498452 50 53.383695
49 Arkansas 0.267902 44 -3.508618 59 53.264739
50 Ohio 0.233552 47 2.581809 77 53.200316
51 Florida 0.134894 60 14.614171 20 52.403489
52 Houston 0.204894 51 1.183068 63 52.076777
53 Marshall 0.227199 48 -3.118626 73 51.968473
54 Minnesota 0.202890 52 0.442318 67 51.870492
55 East Carolina 0.193192 53 -0.349451 68 51.407484
56 Kansas 0.145850 57 6.119978 48 51.127478
57 Iowa 0.144702 58 6.186802 47 51.103440
58 Oklahoma 0.140814 59 4.963996 53 50.744323
59 BYU 0.171133 55 -3.964765 81 50.006580
60 Missouri 0.097018 62 7.723734 39 49.867270
61 Baylor 0.108909 61 5.001984 52 49.727434
62 Auburn 0.067364 67 11.508525 30 49.640633
63 Wisconsin 0.087505 63 5.773266 49 49.188157
64 Duke 0.151141 56 -6.679134 88 48.844708
65 Toledo 0.073962 66 -3.187964 74 47.036249
66 Michigan St. -0.022141 73 11.804918 27 46.824303
67 Vanderbilt 0.080888 64 -8.910271 33 46.279470
68 Wyoming -0.023971 74 9.268295 92 46.162015
69 San Diego St. 0.046440 69 -3.594176 78 46.074919
70 San Jose St. 0.075547 65 -9.480663 95 45.881284
71 Southern MS 0.005295 71 2.280131 60 45.879814
72 Arizona -0.054068 80 12.208778 26 45.876824
73 North Texas 0.058861 68 -11.556960 75 44.973611
74 Liberty 0.009805 70 -3.204512 99 44.947773
75 Memphis -0.015705 72 -5.543952 86 43.706451
76 La. Lafayette -0.041779 77 -3.807475 80 43.202205
77 West Virginia -0.070149 83 0.927822 64 43.198922
78 Ala. B’ham -0.051392 78 -5.463270 85 42.576349
79 Utah St. -0.040473 76 -7.759915 91 42.486732
80 Bowling Grn -0.030893 75 -9.600915 96 42.441483
81 Middle Ten. -0.064200 81 -6.569318 87 41.953263
82 Texas A&M -0.083841 85 -4.144471 82 41.787431
83 App. St. -0.068684 82 -7.457817 90 41.639066
84 Ga. Southern -0.053859 79 -14.035524 101 40.854481
85 E. Michigan -0.070581 84 -11.500855 98 40.803431
86 Iowa St. -0.127746 86 -2.156483 71 40.759007
87 Connecticut -0.139713 87 -6.687493 89 39.506608
88 U. Miami -0.167537 89 -5.258466 83 38.887301
89 Indiana -0.204367 93 -0.907259 70 38.538837
90 Buffalo -0.146024 88 -16.272201 105 37.467385
91 Kent St. -0.191411 91 -9.025616 93 37.399062
92 Georgia Tech -0.271597 97 2.612141 58 37.055141
93 Stanford -0.176437 90 -17.196964 31 36.507003
94 Navy -0.340242 100 11.250770 108 36.313905
95 Tulsa -0.233480 96 -11.015011 97 35.667433
96 Miami U. -0.212941 94 -15.801490 104 35.409512
97 Fla. Atlantic -0.201108 92 -18.324879 110 35.305809
98 Cal (Berkeley) -0.363543 102 7.112294 41 34.965986
99 Virginia -0.227852 95 -17.400180 109 34.624527
100 Rice -0.287431 98 -9.425079 94 34.240236
101 Rutgers -0.384990 104 -0.584359 69 32.802675
102 La. Monroe -0.372140 103 -3.772946 79 32.604142
103 Army -0.422970 108 -5.440811 84 30.652906
104 Arizona St. -0.476896 112 1.604488 62 30.271905
105 W. Michigan -0.338648 99 -23.885640 120 29.825185
106 Ball St. -0.357287 101 -23.149040 102 29.412283
107 Georgia St. -0.409165 106 -14.227582 119 29.368016
108 Nebraska -0.409618 107 -16.899175 107 28.885807
109 UNLV -0.398504 105 -22.177078 117 28.231185
110 UTEP -0.427403 109 -19.026198 111 27.907313
111 Boston Coll -0.474441 111 -13.286336 100 27.497281
112 C. Michigan -0.453460 110 -19.209588 112 27.035737
113 Colorado -0.654748 121 9.198656 35 26.018049
114 Colorado St. -0.511809 114 -20.105791 113 24.990978
115 Texas St. -0.506130 113 -21.293908 115 24.945593
116 Virginia Tech -0.524918 115 -20.119085 114 24.567640
117 New Mex. St. -0.533034 116 -21.638574 116 24.015938
118 La. Tech -0.595162 118 -16.686445 106 22.970570
119 Arkansas St. -0.613742 119 -15.420299 103 22.616760
120 Old Dominion -0.544987 117 -28.351779 125 22.345812
121 Florida Int’l -0.670287 122 -22.840577 118 19.379744
122 Charlotte -0.636218 120 -30.253564 128 19.052855
123 Hawaii -0.712880 123 -25.355557 122 17.530579
124 Temple -0.741064 124 -30.055685 127 15.725214
125 New Mexico -0.773969 125 -27.954284 124 15.071632
126 Northwestern -0.794561 128 -24.577430 121 15.057686
127 Akron -0.788167 127 -28.570989 126 14.497677
128 N. Illinois -0.787745 126 -32.752086 129 13.710039
129 South Florida -0.852483 129 -27.811801 123 12.578617
130 Nevada Reno -0.867991 130 -34.853801 130 10.731365
131 Massachusetts -1.175749 131 -39.301378 131 0.000000

12/04/2022 Conferences

1 SEC 62.270597
2 Big XII 57.827488
3 Pac-12 54.722675
4 Big Ten 52.030266
5 ACC 50.181369
6 AAC 45.042749
7 Sun Belt 43.241221
8 MWC 38.085806
9 CUSA 37.363757
10 Independents 36.254959
11 MAC 34.061501

11/27/2022

Rank Team Unweighted Rank Weighted Rank Total
1 Georgia 1.312403 1 30.812403 1 100.000000
2 Michigan 1.149896 2 23.549896 6 92.535665
3 TCU 1.148479 3 16.948479 16 90.276196
4 Southern CA 0.974747 5 25.744169 4 87.854277
5 Ohio St. 0.992622 4 19.431626 13 86.288515
6 Tennessee 0.913346 6 22.749100 10 84.949744
7 Alabama 0.884287 7 17.820147 15 82.396545
8 Penn St. 0.781915 9 18.340502 14 79.404523
9 Clemson 0.818713 8 12.832769 24 78.694215
10 LSU 0.702671 10 23.419597 7 78.657985
11 Oregon St. 0.619985 16 30.386364 2 78.438559
12 Texas 0.609300 17 26.186449 3 76.698408
13 Oregon 0.607584 18 24.934535 5 76.225150
14 Utah 0.583171 21 22.908063 9 74.789830
15 Kansas St. 0.654314 12 12.433192 26 73.474782
16 UCLA 0.533669 22 23.213119 8 73.360986
17 Tulane 0.678248 11 9.876109 35 73.356888
18 Florida St. 0.639667 15 12.001986 28 72.876997
19 Boise St. 0.639987 14 11.416162 30 72.690255
20 Washington 0.597787 20 14.802428 18 72.521449
21 Notre Dame 0.462478 30 21.567620 12 70.606567
22 Troy 0.652180 13 3.237916 57 70.322551
23 S Carolina 0.505432 24 12.971494 23 69.050114
24 Mississippi St. 0.489998 25 13.812945 20 68.855113
25 TX San Anton’ 0.602329 19 2.493095 61 68.530525
26 S. Alabama 0.488854 26 12.662107 25 68.433485
27 Ole Miss 0.477522 28 13.349629 22 68.313682
28 C. Florida 0.479742 27 5.183245 48 65.641463
29 N Carolina 0.517742 23 -0.059660 69 65.057233
30 N Carolina St. 0.411306 31 8.353730 37 64.588652
31 Kentucky 0.334550 34 12.108557 27 63.474612
32 Coastal Car. 0.470542 29 -1.068334 73 63.258637
33 Cincinnati 0.389867 32 4.631655 51 62.676229
34 Purdue 0.377916 33 3.787616 54 62.023274
35 Wash. St. 0.172414 55 21.749026 11 61.694944
36 Fresno St. 0.248585 44 11.967799 29 60.768249
37 Louisville 0.300661 40 5.882383 45 60.336638
38 Pittsburgh 0.318445 38 3.811226 52 60.191579
39 Texas Tech 0.300599 41 4.873227 49 59.995999
40 Ohio 0.331618 36 1.794124 64 59.922055
41 Syracuse 0.279187 42 6.401360 43 59.846556
42 Maryland 0.237577 46 10.185304 34 59.829477
43 Air Force 0.305364 39 3.803955 53 59.784531
44 Wake Forest 0.273555 43 5.764951 46 59.458738
45 So. Methodist 0.241234 45 8.335527 38 59.321739
46 Illinois 0.322401 37 0.805826 66 59.305268
47 Jms Madison 0.334217 35 -2.529568 79 58.551304
48 W. Kentucky 0.217279 49 7.273066 40 58.224154
49 Florida 0.126526 60 13.561467 21 57.527509
50 Arkansas 0.235193 47 2.573362 59 57.200909
51 BYU 0.183689 54 7.204787 41 57.162189
52 Oklahoma St. 0.209379 50 3.760579 55 56.800878
53 Houston 0.198588 52 2.364112 62 55.998381
54 Minnesota 0.201730 51 1.827590 63 55.915482
55 Marshall 0.229668 48 -1.364472 75 55.708342
56 Iowa 0.146294 57 6.184064 44 55.662881
57 East Carolina 0.195551 53 0.747635 68 55.361885
58 Auburn 0.066185 66 10.964300 31 54.789272
59 Missouri 0.089630 62 7.064642 42 54.205665
60 Kansas 0.143307 58 0.922901 65 53.804650
61 Wisconsin 0.086965 63 5.640805 47 53.645333
62 Oklahoma 0.138534 59 0.798681 67 53.615328
63 Arizona -0.059377 81 15.248656 17 52.343275
64 Baylor 0.105650 61 -0.673130 71 52.104158
65 Michigan St. -0.024006 72 10.943109 32 51.992318
66 Duke 0.153826 56 -5.664661 89 51.919039
67 San Diego St. 0.031179 69 2.503368 60 50.866689
68 Vanderbilt -0.027169 73 7.806811 39 50.841827
69 Wyoming 0.080916 64 -3.306929 80 50.455054
70 Southern MS -0.006585 70 3.213180 58 49.936775
71 North Texas 0.055762 68 -4.298342 86 49.344243
72 Georgia Tech -0.040300 75 3.713200 56 49.061687
73 San Jose St. 0.070102 65 -8.450895 96 48.394065
74 Liberty 0.057212 67 -9.579392 99 47.616601
75 Utah St. -0.029605 74 -1.928843 77 47.498854
76 Memphis -0.015047 71 -3.835908 84 47.309114
77 La. Lafayette -0.045873 77 -2.298231 78 46.871668
78 Ala. B’ham -0.046317 78 -3.913088 85 46.315954
79 Toledo -0.050727 79 -3.691648 83 46.253851
80 West Virginia -0.071666 83 -3.464771 81 45.682299
81 Texas A&M -0.077366 85 -3.518956 82 45.487798
82 Middle Ten. -0.066448 82 -4.586080 87 45.467366
83 Bowling Green -0.045500 76 -7.521174 93 45.130233
84 App. St. -0.076562 84 -5.468356 88 44.858373
85 Iowa St. -0.124328 87 -1.450639 76 44.729325
86 E. Michigan -0.079933 86 -9.505997 98 43.398951
87 Ga. Southern -0.053120 80 -12.012277 101 43.387156
88 Stanford -0.341861 100 14.130332 19 43.229880
89 Connecticut -0.149225 88 -6.084376 91 42.403937
90 Indiana -0.206493 94 -0.860235 72 42.385879
91 Army -0.203645 92 -1.246921 74 42.344183
92 U. Miami -0.166327 90 -5.703296 90 42.002830
93 Cal (Berkeley) -0.363602 103 9.643907 36 41.051580
94 Kent St. -0.204104 93 -7.790622 95 40.133716
95 Tulsa -0.236916 98 -8.965777 97 38.724327
96 Navy -0.163195 89 -15.780030 111 38.717649
97 Rice -0.285908 99 -6.452113 92 38.052528
98 Fla. Atlantic -0.190099 91 -15.589664 110 37.949315
99 Miami U. -0.216566 96 -13.804876 105 37.729652
100 Buffalo -0.209029 95 -15.015311 107 37.556537
101 Virginia -0.220216 97 -15.286791 108 37.119381
102 Rutgers -0.386743 105 -0.643708 70 36.882914
103 Arizona St. -0.482551 112 4.833913 50 35.757753
104 La. Monroe -0.379311 104 -7.751916 94 34.727049
105 Colorado -0.654736 121 10.745849 33 32.415850
106 UTEP -0.419150 109 -11.497957 100 32.237426
107 Ball St. -0.417110 108 -12.831844 102 31.852849
108 W. Michigan -0.346079 101 -21.171729 121 31.250889
109 Nebraska -0.409417 107 -15.568934 109 31.172160
110 Georgia St. -0.356714 102 -20.947413 120 30.997213
111 Boston College -0.476824 111 -12.929460 103 29.972943
112 UNLV -0.403032 106 -20.103198 118 29.847815
113 C. Michigan -0.471932 110 -16.804813 113 28.823585
114 Colorado St. -0.510042 113 -13.439257 104 28.774309
115 Virginia Tech -0.520545 114 -17.378231 114 27.127398
116 Texas St. -0.521057 115 -18.986946 115 26.571626
117 New Mex. St. -0.550384 117 -19.545473 116 25.477000
118 La. Tech -0.599700 118 -16.103801 112 25.106637
119 Arkansas St. -0.621238 119 -14.133090 106 25.101832
120 Old Dominion -0.540530 116 -25.841863 126 23.668524
121 Florida Int’l -0.677637 122 -19.756928 117 21.469730
122 Charlotte -0.640188 120 -27.162747 128 20.142476
123 Akron -0.713902 123 -22.429246 123 19.451010
124 Hawaii -0.725590 124 -23.728310 124 18.653488
125 New Mexico -0.777439 126 -20.244524 119 18.218923
126 Northwestern -0.792856 127 -22.178543 122 17.092894
127 Temple -0.742537 125 -27.091410 127 17.000499
128 N. Illinois -0.796412 128 -29.329668 130 14.582746
129 South Florida -0.855092 129 -25.033860 125 14.209422
130 Nevada Reno -0.879465 130 -27.344075 129 12.680115
131 Massachusetts -1.202006 131 -35.397585 131 0.000000

11/27/2022 Conferences

1 SEC 66.839341
2 Pac-12 60.806961
3 Big XII 60.718202
4 Big Ten 56.009756
5 ACC 54.160992
6 AAC 48.028872
7 Sun Belt 45.885324
8 MWC 41.552696
9 Independents 40.801497
10 CUSA 40.258214
11 MAC 36.340506

11/20/2022

Rank Team Unweighted Rank Weighted Rank Total
1 Georgia 1.207585 1 25.007585 3 100.000000
2 Ohio St. 1.095223 2 25.395223 2 96.417290
3 TCU 1.072256 3 20.872256 8 94.308727
4 Michigan 0.970057 4 19.770057 9 90.615002
5 Clemson 0.901038 5 22.613312 6 89.193314
6 LSU 0.814496 8 26.784531 1 87.591979
7 Southern Calif. 0.832168 6 22.362273 7 86.851229
8 Tennessee 0.802743 9 24.323924 4 86.469277
9 Alabama 0.817220 7 18.556082 10 85.220971
10 Penn St. 0.685801 10 17.383817 11 80.544455
11 Oregon 0.656195 11 17.018632 13 79.460708
12 Utah 0.548092 16 16.970206 14 75.887781
13 Florida St. 0.572641 14 13.860086 16 75.765778
14 Troy 0.588604 13 11.315518 18 75.530317
15 Notre Dame 0.547164 17 14.522489 15 75.125252
16 Oregon St. 0.462128 27 23.092142 5 74.888769
17 N Carolina 0.602433 12 6.055533 28 74.412562
18 Texas 0.516950 22 10.952958 19 73.063243
19 Ole Miss 0.530570 19 8.824706 22 72.875153
20 Tulane 0.531301 18 8.653592 24 72.848034
21 Kansas St. 0.553995 15 5.674820 30 72.704291
22 TX San Anton’ 0.518274 21 5.710680 29 71.539150
23 UCLA 0.471542 26 10.401765 20 71.403703
24 Washington 0.491154 24 7.075450 27 71.054558
25 Coastal Car. 0.522670 20 3.526982 37 71.030858
26 S. Alabama 0.441166 28 12.118300 17 70.917127
27 Boise St. 0.511779 23 2.590178 43 70.392211
28 Cincinnati 0.416721 29 3.071090 39 67.406963
29 C. Florida 0.476344 25 -4.533085 64 67.095624
30 Mississippi St. 0.360477 31 7.588237 25 66.906377
31 Wake Forest 0.345863 32 5.489881 33 65.797836
32 Oklahoma St. 0.322101 34 7.124507 26 65.504476
33 Wash. St. 0.225473 42 17.050227 12 65.291960
34 Louisville 0.368611 30 -1.362278 57 64.497540
35 Purdue 0.321687 35 2.606352 42 64.139734
36 N Carolina St. 0.292068 39 5.641044 31 64.072248
37 S Carolina 0.323956 33 -1.012655 56 63.132176
38 Iowa 0.282530 40 3.345137 38 63.071709
39 Houston 0.301174 37 -0.653342 55 62.489710
40 Syracuse 0.249088 41 1.487175 47 61.415271
41 Texas Tech 0.223224 43 3.800634 35 61.255723
42 Arkansas 0.293021 38 -4.175839 62 61.167966
43 Pittsburgh 0.219471 44 2.785086 41 60.828502
44 Illinois 0.310247 36 -7.691055 74 60.683784
45 Fresno St. 0.130430 60 8.665690 23 59.656055
46 Ohio 0.207880 46 -0.180531 51 59.560101
47 Florida 0.155123 55 5.507505 32 59.524461
48 Kentucky 0.199163 48 0.579572 50 59.500465
49 BYU 0.165349 53 3.604673 36 59.292023
50 Oklahoma 0.181880 50 0.607227 49 58.939828
51 Auburn 0.095952 63 10.032906 21 58.929988
52 Air Force 0.174351 51 -0.547873 54 58.346568
53 Marshall 0.149891 58 0.970530 48 57.995475
54 Jms Madison 0.201088 47 -5.021014 67 57.889014
55 Kansas 0.209338 45 -6.751448 70 57.643108
56 Wisconsin 0.125410 61 2.012854 44 57.501331
57 Maryland 0.191733 49 -6.532142 69 57.129196
58 Liberty 0.169187 52 -4.624951 65 56.957359
59 San Diego St. 0.082312 65 4.110901 34 56.710073
60 S. Methodist 0.152467 57 -4.216112 63 56.529234
61 W. Kentucky 0.139845 59 -3.406316 60 56.355946
62 Minnesota 0.091637 64 -0.212492 52 55.724130
63 East Carolina 0.154835 56 -10.301319 79 54.787476
64 Duke 0.077590 66 -3.087030 58 54.402128
65 Vanderbilt 0.020672 69 2.978307 40 54.342354
66 Baylor 0.161957 54 -13.033600 87 54.204844
67 Wyoming 0.107352 62 -7.361533 72 54.103576
68 Georgia Tech 0.015118 71 1.904101 45 53.838307
69 Toledo 0.058629 67 -3.162591 59 53.755396
70 App. St. 0.000659 72 -0.368685 53 52.682681
71 Michigan St. -0.004938 73 -4.970106 66 51.122435
72 Memphis 0.031858 68 -10.053640 76 50.813459
73 Missouri -0.012054 74 -6.081144 68 50.555925
74 San Jose St. 0.015522 70 -11.923257 83 49.716626
75 Bowling Green -0.018975 75 -10.493885 80 49.008506
76 Arizona -0.086022 80 -3.992764 61 48.745617
77 Utah St. -0.030513 76 -12.468038 86 48.038355
78 Iowa St. -0.075900 78 -7.619287 73 47.994335
79 North Texas -0.035840 77 -13.693320 89 47.496617
80 Middle Ten. -0.120330 84 -8.933262 75 46.138883
81 Southern MS -0.081917 79 -13.702875 90 45.977007
82 U. Miami -0.127326 85 -10.188765 77 45.533152
83 Stanford -0.248337 97 1.818148 46 45.140349
84 La. Lafayette -0.113044 82 -13.715125 91 44.948737
85 Ala. B’ham -0.094648 81 -15.993637 97 44.872920
86 Buffalo -0.115267 83 -14.784194 95 44.555851
87 E. Michigan -0.144352 86 -13.949781 94 43.848004
88 Indiana -0.174238 92 -11.686468 82 43.541061
89 Connecticut -0.173175 91 -13.925662 93 42.906440
90 Army -0.194184 93 -11.664387 81 42.891092
91 Texas A&M -0.196098 94 -12.047854 84 42.713401
92 West Virginia -0.170781 90 -16.613587 98 42.181417
93 Fla. Atlantic -0.151659 87 -18.781427 104 42.162593
94 Ga. Southern -0.157811 88 -18.247963 102 42.119629
95 Rice -0.220822 96 -13.308088 88 41.522699
96 Virginia -0.213941 95 -17.998185 100 40.346673
97 Cal (Berkeley) -0.319809 100 -6.773095 71 40.218550
98 Navy -0.168925 89 -27.272444 118 39.055068
99 La. Monroe -0.304487 98 -13.811206 92 38.618218
100 Rutgers -0.347717 104 -12.376707 85 37.624175
101 Arizona St. -0.385899 108 -10.202764 78 37.017416
102 Georgia St. -0.310410 99 -20.255111 108 36.496246
103 Tulsa -0.340146 103 -18.020873 101 36.185542
104 Miami U. -0.337952 102 -18.713902 103 36.050529
105 Kent St. -0.335896 101 -19.115818 107 35.998017
106 Ball St. -0.375990 106 -15.136641 96 35.868161
107 C. Michigan -0.381395 107 -18.909169 106 34.562092
108 UTEP -0.373891 105 -20.744420 109 34.260298
109 Boston College -0.386533 109 -21.028697 110 33.759155
110 Texas St. -0.426680 110 -18.891156 105 33.076835
111 UNLV -0.429996 111 -24.506442 111 31.288460
112 W. Michigan -0.436067 112 -28.149487 119 29.999205
113 La. Tech -0.525150 116 -25.895097 114 27.741003
114 Virginia Tech -0.517015 115 -27.272109 117 27.596976
115 Colorado -0.621723 121 -17.492677 99 27.074755
116 Old Dominion -0.481882 113 -33.422128 123 26.914355
117 Colorado St. -0.558976 117 -24.947731 112 26.910841
118 Nebraska -0.513421 114 -30.163596 120 26.850611
119 Arkansas St. -0.560007 118 -26.804928 115 26.321511
120 Florida Int’l -0.579913 119 -25.319372 113 26.110508
121 New Mex. St. -0.642614 122 -27.150241 116 23.499046
122 N. Illinois -0.601807 120 -35.331179 126 22.395870
123 New Mexico -0.705270 125 -30.298343 121 20.495181
124 Charlotte -0.643768 123 -38.927887 128 19.939030
125 Temple -0.697289 124 -33.964851 124 19.661422
126 Northwestern -0.741362 126 -34.929646 125 17.922173
127 Hawaii -0.767485 127 -33.366128 122 17.529820
128 Akron -0.769002 128 -35.548430 127 16.827293
129 South Florida -0.824005 129 -39.587083 129 13.809014
130 Nevada Reno -0.844224 130 -42.306105 130 12.330335
131 Massachusetts -1.155239 131 -49.303700 131 0.000000

11/20/2022 Conferences

1 SEC 67.780749
2 Big XII 62.779999
3 Pac-12 60.252950
4 ACC 57.961389
5 Big Ten 57.349078
6 AAC 49.152868
7 Sun Belt 48.608429
8 Independents 42.953030
9 MWC 42.126509
10 CUSA 41.649059
11 MAC 38.535752

11/13/2022

The numbers to the right of the teams are unweighted rating (rank), weighted rating (rank), and overall rating.

1 Georgia 1.062739 1 17.61273949 4 100.0000
2 Ohio St. 0.976957 3 18.77695669 3 96.8330
3 TCU 0.980259 2 14.78025851 6 96.0359
4 Tennessee 0.870611 4 23.36203687 1 93.6375
5 Michigan 0.859728 5 19.40972772 2 92.2822
6 Clemson 0.810137 6 9.764088849 9 88.0518
7 Alabama 0.742976 7 11.78084311 7 85.8293
8 LSU 0.723664 8 7.971761692 13 84.1696
9 Southern Calif. 0.667933 9 15.58738592 5 83.7072
10 North Carolina 0.649103 10 5.103055336 16 80.5144
11 Penn St. 0.599812 11 11.68216792 8 80.0691
12 Utah 0.596502 12 3.18865385 19 77.9612
13 UCLA 0.544537 14 6.117306389 15 76.5598
14 Oregon 0.524362 16 8.660814903 10 76.3428
15 Notre Dame 0.522819 17 8.367850461 12 76.2129
16 Ole Miss 0.528818 15 5.082001681 17 75.6891
17 C. Florida 0.571025 13 -2.073381277 33 75.7165
18 Florida St. 0.483872 21 8.508513963 11 74.6848
19 Coastal Car. 0.513098 18 2.625475231 20 74.4879
20 Troy 0.501515 19 0.623112705 26 73.5580
21 Kansas St. 0.489013 20 -2.427373505 35 72.3476
22 Washington 0.476177 22 -2.008973664 32 71.9305
23 Tulane 0.430438 23 2.194818134 23 71.0752
24 TX San Anton’ 0.428398 24 1.776648243 24 70.8961
25 Oklahoma St. 0.409803 25 1.616334931 25 70.1137
26 Oregon St. 0.402147 27 2.568721894 21 70.0283
27 S. Alabama 0.386334 28 4.462069114 18 69.8349
28 N. Carolina St. 0.356749 30 2.377376236 22 68.1645
29 Texas 0.408736 26 -7.670911745 50 67.9111
30 Liberty 0.348919 31 -1.362920643 29 66.9809
31 Cincinnati 0.347162 32 -1.539031881 31 66.8695
32 Boise St. 0.382849 29 -9.217151274 54 66.5141
33 Mississippi St. 0.310142 36 -0.438244839 27 65.6420
34 Purdue 0.320879 34 -4.146204025 37 65.2100
35 Syracuse 0.312495 35 -6.347852241 45 64.3620
36 Illinois 0.324520 33 -8.568142729 53 64.3275
37 Florida 0.221552 40 6.271482554 14 63.6521
38 Kansas 0.273276 37 -9.903575654 56 61.9634
39 Kentucky 0.206782 44 -0.918233246 28 61.3882
40 Wake Forest 0.221298 41 -6.325825677 44 60.7124
41 Louisville 0.250813 38 -11.25466336 58 60.7490
42 Maryland 0.218517 42 -8.137647967 51 60.1796
43 Minnesota 0.165584 51 -1.452598669 30 59.6129
44 Toledo 0.168674 50 -2.106454644 34 59.5847
45 Iowa 0.183035 46 -4.989520727 40 59.4897
46 S. Methodist 0.177683 48 -5.94809537 43 59.0524
47 Baylor 0.231040 39 -13.86518555 66 59.3495
48 East Carolina 0.212103 43 -14.46011136 67 58.4522
49 Ohio 0.142239 55 -4.812197781 39 57.8961
50 Washington St. 0.142694 54 -5.559210334 41 57.7406
51 Texas Tech 0.168767 49 -9.561026915 55 57.8548
52 Houston 0.184228 45 -11.95242587 60 57.9183
53 Duke 0.120200 56 -3.474557625 36 57.3240
54 Wyoming 0.143800 53 -8.170147378 52 57.1778
55 W. Kentucky 0.177999 47 -14.77745245 68 57.0117
56 Pittsburgh 0.106735 59 -4.785188422 38 56.4796
57 South Carolina 0.101184 61 -7.655756702 49 55.5895
58 Michigan St. 0.094703 63 -6.948183835 47 55.4944
59 James Madison 0.114086 57 -10.36041894 57 55.4776
60 San Diego St. 0.080954 65 -6.801688309 46 54.9774
61 Air Force 0.104981 60 -11.43631447 59 54.8625
62 Fresno St. 0.110386 58 -12.54952721 63 54.8202
63 BYU 0.158720 52 -19.79385631 79 55.0725
64 Wisconsin 0.072174 66 -7.462337824 48 54.4719
65 Arkansas 0.097185 62 -12.52935546 62 54.2959
66 Oklahoma 0.083771 64 -12.6371899 64 53.7333
67 San Jose St. 0.069205 67 -12.47720065 61 53.1867
68 Auburn -0.035436 74 -5.911984632 42 50.5201
69 Memphis 0.020065 68 -18.75735554 75 49.7570
70 Marshall -0.009154 72 -16.19797806 72 49.1812
71 Connecticut -0.015393 73 -15.68921243 69 49.0495
72 Southern MS -0.008976 71 -20.45175852 83 48.1991
73 North Texas 0.014632 69 -24.79741227 97 48.1346
74 Iowa St. -0.005771 70 -22.59634677 91 47.8288
75 Arizona -0.043527 76 -20.06614079 81 46.9042
76 App. St. -0.084795 81 -16.05598058 71 46.1830
77 Vanderbilt -0.105694 84 -13.23230409 65 46.0021
78 Alabama B’ham -0.035636 75 -23.63778744 95 46.3898
79 La. Lafayette -0.046750 77 -22.90843598 93 46.1140
80 Missouri -0.076577 80 -18.88889375 76 45.8535
81 Ga. Southern -0.063437 78 -21.6670769 86 45.7340
82 Fla. Atlantic -0.075542 79 -21.29483918 85 45.3354
83 Utah St. -0.100173 83 -20.09470037 82 44.6275
84 Buffalo -0.088095 82 -22.66350538 92 44.5141
85 Georgia Tech -0.150997 88 -17.41648011 73 43.2135
86 U. Miami -0.143556 87 -19.11993613 77 43.1156
87 West Virginia -0.129590 85 -21.9497279 88 43.0172
88 E. Michigan -0.163590 90 -19.62008511 78 42.1964
89 Bowling Green -0.151589 89 -23.84239125 96 41.6954
90 Stanford -0.136706 86 -27.24487303 101 41.5006
91 Middle Ten. -0.190997 91 -22.19139692 89 40.5001
92 C. Michigan -0.231524 93 -21.06594262 84 39.1378
93 Rice -0.232482 94 -22.35720044 90 38.7991
94 Indiana -0.243684 96 -21.75960518 87 38.4891
95 Rutgers -0.289085 100 -15.94425497 70 38.0221
96 Kent St. -0.249228 97 -23.23151536 94 37.9246
97 Virginia -0.231203 92 -28.96920547 104 37.3127
98 Texas A&M -0.238825 95 -28.93995761 103 37.0140
99 Ball St. -0.311605 102 -18.44488521 74 36.5381
100 La. Monroe -0.311939 103 -19.89113994 80 36.1883
101 Army -0.280382 99 -26.04505355 99 36.0218
102 Arizona St. -0.304484 101 -25.72059666 98 35.1314
103 UNLV -0.256703 98 -33.25474422 111 35.2941
104 Georgia St. -0.326345 105 -26.67285859 100 34.0339
105 Navy -0.316865 104 -35.25528317 114 32.4179
106 Tulsa -0.344351 106 -33.37117241 112 31.7546
107 La. Tech -0.371675 108 -29.69076385 105 31.5155
108 Cal (Berkeley) -0.356303 107 -32.64909538 109 31.4435
109 Boston College -0.378862 109 -33.47468304 113 30.3475
110 Miami U. -0.426029 111 -30.17424371 106 29.2248
111 Arkansas St. -0.428364 112 -32.12601026 108 28.6773
112 Texas St. -0.448505 114 -30.59992887 107 28.2251
113 UTEP -0.419475 110 -35.92343424 115 28.1504
114 Florida Int’l -0.452555 116 -33.0767788 110 27.4868
115 Old Dominion -0.433499 113 -38.47981919 118 26.9939
116 Nebraska -0.450399 115 -36.40593516 116 26.7990
117 New Mex. St. -0.546477 120 -28.87600814 102 24.6998
118 W. Michigan -0.479608 117 -39.50159275 120 24.9085
119 Colorado St. -0.500119 118 -37.78169613 117 24.4865
120 N. Illinois -0.504055 119 -39.91185672 121 23.8334
121 Colorado -0.555731 121 -40.21480926 122 21.6920
122 Virginia Tech -0.606821 122 -39.03964075 119 19.9179
123 New Mexico -0.643889 123 -41.90777917 124 17.7654
124 Temple -0.678887 124 -40.73234398 123 16.6362
125 Northwestern -0.696518 127 -44.43183249 125 15.0693
126 South Florida -0.690738 125 -45.60461736 126 15.0282
127 UNC-Charlotte -0.690923 126 -53.56243276 130 13.1702
128 Akron -0.766248 128 -49.56263793 127 11.0817
129 Nevada (Reno) -0.793166 129 -49.6031862 128 9.9936
130 Hawaii -0.849858 130 -50.13064408 129 7.5990
131 Massachusetts -1.006195 131 -55.86612592 131 0.0000

11/13/2022 Conferences

1 SEC 65.663067
2 Big XII 63.015525
3 Big Ten 57.596422
4 Pac-12 57.578522
5 ACC 56.067819
6 AAC 48.607095
7 Sun Belt 47.349170
8 Independents 44.005351
9 CUSA 40.671798
10 MWC 40.108746
11 MAC 37.377968

11/06/2022

1 Georgia 0.907537
2 Ohio St. 0.888818
3 TCU 0.832712
4 Michigan 0.793757
5 Tennessee 0.786494
6 Clemson 0.720248
7 UCLA 0.658060
8 So. California 0.616111
9 LSU 0.601589
10 Oregon 0.595866
11 Ole Miss 0.578316
12 Alabama 0.576445
13 N Carolina 0.549871
14 Utah 0.515358
15 N Carolina St. 0.509958
16 Notre Dame 0.480871
17 Tulane 0.480829
18 Coastal Car. 0.470591
19 Troy 0.439997
20 Penn St. 0.436338
21 Liberty 0.427705
22 C. Florida 0.419784
23 Illinois 0.417997
24 Texas 0.409548
25 Kansas St. 0.380738
26 Syracuse 0.370069
27 Florida St. 0.360041
28 Kansas 0.352311
29 Tex. San Antonio 0.347567
30 Mississippi St. 0.346238
31 Oregon St. 0.331424
32 Oklahoma St. 0.321472
33 Kentucky 0.319748
34 Washington 0.304192
35 S Alabama 0.287351
36 Maryland 0.279231
37 Baylor 0.276317
38 East Carolina 0.269464
39 Cincinnati 0.268183
40 Wake Forest 0.250806
41 Louisville 0.233815
42 S Carolina 0.204238
43 Oklahoma 0.201449
44 So. Methodist 0.191849
45 Purdue 0.180391
46 BYU 0.163842
47 Arkansas 0.154534
48 Boise St. 0.151717
49 Houston 0.145504
50 Wisconsin 0.137955
51 San Jose St. 0.136174
52 Florida 0.134283
53 Minnesota 0.132055
54 Washington St. 0.129510
55 Wyoming 0.116115
56 Iowa 0.093970
57 Duke 0.082470
58 Air Force 0.077496
59 Ohio 0.076198
60 Pittsburgh 0.075906
61 N Texas 0.073151
62 Michigan St. 0.064351
63 James Madison 0.050109
64 Texas Tech 0.039360
65 Toledo 0.038383
66 Iowa St. 0.033113
67 Georgia So. 0.019770
68 Fresno St. 0.013255
69 Appalachian St. 0.012386
70 W. Kentucky 0.004239
71 Buffalo -0.001170
72 Bowling Green -0.018712
73 Memphis -0.022196
74 So. Mississippi -0.022831
75 Missouri -0.054482
76 Georgia Tech -0.054545
77 Auburn -0.060845
78 San Diego St. -0.078736
79 Marshall -0.080582
80 Stanford -0.083404
81 Texas A&M -0.123609
82 Fla. Atlantic -0.133943
83 Utah St. -0.135823
84 Connecticut -0.136736
85 Ala. Birmingham -0.140253
86 Georgia St. -0.147498
87 Rice -0.165049
88 Virginia -0.166493
89 UNLV -0.178683
90 La. Lafayette -0.182237
91 Indiana -0.183672
92 U. Miami -0.204372
93 Arizona -0.209599
94 West Virginia -0.214166
95 Rutgers -0.219998
96 Vanderbilt -0.220510
97 Army -0.223520
98 Arizona St. -0.223810
99 Ball St. -0.230906
100 E. Michigan -0.232769
101 Navy -0.239176
102 Middle Ten. -0.247616
103 Tulsa -0.273762
104 W. Michigan -0.299744
105 Miami U. -0.308368
106 La. Tech -0.313220
107 Cal (Berkeley) -0.324045
108 Kent St. -0.336597
109 C. Michigan -0.344097
110 Old Dominion -0.344630
111 Nebraska -0.381625
112 Texas St. -0.406155
113 Florida Int’l -0.425601
114 UTEP -0.426541
115 La. Monroe -0.453222
116 Colorado St. -0.455590
117 Arkansas St. -0.456299
118 Boston Coll. -0.506176
119 Colorado -0.511677
120 New Mexico St. -0.526277
121 New Mexico -0.557598
122 Virginia Tech -0.566164
123 Northwestern -0.593769
124 Charlotte -0.599033
125 No. Illinois -0.602248
126 Temple -0.606828
127 S Florida -0.631843
128 Akron -0.703684
129 Nevada (Reno) -0.736124
130 Hawaii -0.794625
131 Massachusetts -0.831767

11/06/2022 Conferences

1 SEC 0.296427
2 Big XII 0.263285
3 Pac-12 0.149832
4 Big Ten 0.146128
5 ACC 0.118245
6 AAC 0.000164
7 Sun Belt -0.058089
8 Indpendents -0.092269
9 CUSA -0.184209
10 MWC -0.203535
11 MAC -0.246976

10/30/2022

1 Ohio St. 0.794584
2 TCU 0.787664
3 Tennessee 0.778340
4 Clemson 0.756694
5 Georgia 0.745112
6 Michigan 0.706152
7 Alabama 0.619672
8 Ole Miss 0.592286
9 So. California 0.562746
10 UCLA 0.556930
11 Oregon 0.553443
12 Illinois 0.488098
13 Tulane 0.477047
14 N Carolina 0.474083
15 Kansas St. 0.468379
16 Utah 0.454556
17 LSU 0.444233
18 Syracuse 0.436228
19 Oregon St. 0.385641
20 Coastal Car. 0.385597
21 N Carolina St. 0.382928
22 Troy 0.365012
23 Penn St. 0.363646
24 Oklahoma St. 0.361558
25 Maryland 0.350980
26 Liberty 0.339543
27 Notre Dame 0.313082
28 Wake Forest 0.306522
29 Mississippi St. 0.304005
30 Tex. San Antonio 0.294341
31 C. Florida 0.286959
32 East Carolina 0.276133
33 Texas 0.265509
34 Florida St. 0.258279
35 Oklahoma 0.255622
36 Purdue 0.254504
37 Houston 0.227531
38 Boise St. 0.225486
39 Arkansas 0.219218
40 Kentucky 0.219124
41 Kansas 0.208062
42 Washington 0.192453
43 Cincinnati 0.186540
44 S Carolina 0.163564
45 Baylor 0.154357
46 So. Mississippi 0.152877
47 James Madison 0.136961
48 S Alabama 0.136706
49 Louisville 0.134815
50 Wyoming 0.111626
51 San Jose St. 0.105826
52 So. Methodist 0.090922
53 Texas Tech 0.088699
54 Georgia So. 0.083367
55 Appalachian St. 0.081988
56 Florida 0.076897
57 Minnesota 0.076513
58 Washington St. 0.071986
59 Buffalo 0.068442
60 Air Force 0.050125
61 Memphis 0.041669
62 Duke 0.034164
63 Wisconsin 0.033090
64 BYU 0.023204
65 Toledo 0.016436
66 N Texas 0.013221
67 Auburn 0.006365
68 W. Kentucky 0.002956
69 Missouri -0.007620
70 Stanford -0.019823
71 Fresno St. -0.023702
72 Texas A&M -0.024714
73 Iowa -0.026815
74 Ohio -0.047847
75 Iowa St. -0.059712
76 Ala. Birmingham -0.066245
77 Middle Ten. -0.072914
78 Pittsburgh -0.077538
79 U. Miami -0.092239
80 Michigan St. -0.095209
81 Indiana -0.098156
82 UNLV -0.101637
83 Georgia Tech -0.104621
84 Bowling Green -0.111287
85 Virginia -0.115605
86 Marshall -0.124366
87 San Diego St. -0.140877
88 Vanderbilt -0.142189
89 Fla. Atlantic -0.143718
90 Connecticut -0.150354
91 West Virginia -0.156728
92 Utah St. -0.157814
93 Rutgers -0.158713
94 Army -0.163974
95 Navy -0.170189
96 Arizona St. -0.172156
97 Arizona -0.172874
98 Georgia St. -0.173334
99 Rice -0.199016
100 Florida Int’l -0.211882
101 Tulsa -0.222357
102 La. Lafayette -0.230863
103 E. Michigan -0.240021
104 Texas St. -0.245589
105 Ball St. -0.261292
106 Kent St. -0.276003
107 Old Dominion -0.277114
108 W. Michigan -0.279575
109 Nebraska -0.284164
110 Cal (Berkeley) -0.286634
111 Miami U. -0.306476
112 Colorado St. -0.377507
113 UTEP -0.379672
114 La. Tech -0.393693
115 C. Michigan -0.407585
116 S Florida -0.417184
117 Colorado -0.435794
118 Boston Coll. -0.440608
119 Virginia Tech -0.442336
120 Arkansas St. -0.453800
121 New Mexico -0.455141
122 No. Illinois -0.460574
123 La. Monroe -0.490141
124 UNC-Charlotte -0.494027
125 New Mexico St. -0.508675
126 Northwestern -0.566642
127 Temple -0.573426
128 Hawaii -0.691412
129 Nevada (Reno) -0.737767
130 Massachusetts -0.738830
131 Akron -0.827597

10/30/2022 Conferences

1 SEC 0.285307
2 Big XII 0.237341
3 Pac-12 0.140873
4 Big Ten 0.131276
5 ACC 0.107912
6 AAC 0.018513
7 Sun Belt -0.046622
8 Indpendents -0.126572
9 CUSA -0.150059
10 MWC -0.182733
11 MAC -0.261115

10/23/2022

1 Clemson 0.818146
2 TCU 0.708073
3 Tennessee 0.664842
4 Georgia 0.662319
5 Alabama 0.625595
6 Ohio St. 0.616511
7 Michigan 0.603979
8 Ole Miss 0.557276
9 Oregon 0.533639
10 So. California 0.494716
11 UCLA 0.489522
12 LSU 0.487966
13 Syracuse 0.480954
14 Tulane 0.443720
15 Illinois 0.428852
16 Penn St. 0.407179
17 Troy 0.401930
18 Oklahoma St. 0.395127
19 Oregon St. 0.387851
20 Wake Forest 0.375602
21 Liberty 0.371245
22 Utah 0.349682
23 N Carolina St. 0.341563
24 N Carolina 0.337149
25 Maryland 0.325554
26 Kansas St. 0.314606
27 Mississippi St. 0.313682
28 Coastal Car. 0.295927
29 Texas 0.281451
30 Kentucky 0.271659
31 Tex. San Antonio 0.262371
32 S Carolina 0.235772
33 Purdue 0.226554
34 Houston 0.218548
35 Cincinnati 0.212624
36 Kansas 0.207891
37 Florida St. 0.202903
38 Notre Dame 0.178383
39 Oklahoma 0.176385
40 Texas Tech 0.161296
41 Arkansas 0.158664
42 Washington 0.155499
43 Boise St. 0.154320
44 James Madison 0.144852
45 Washington St. 0.143329
46 C. Florida 0.135763
47 East Carolina 0.133439
48 S Alabama 0.121962
49 Florida 0.099540
50 Wyoming 0.086951
51 Georgia So. 0.080622
52 W. Kentucky 0.078115
53 Appalachian St. 0.070349
54 Baylor 0.066250
55 BYU 0.061452
56 So. Mississippi 0.058670
57 Auburn 0.046737
58 San Jose St. 0.043395
59 Wisconsin 0.042484
60 Marshall 0.036644
61 Ala. Birmingham 0.035841
62 Duke 0.035435
63 Air Force 0.023604
64 Buffalo 0.013480
65 Louisville 0.009265
66 Minnesota 0.006491
67 Memphis 0.004194
68 Texas A&M -0.003793
69 Pittsburgh -0.009893
70 Iowa St. -0.012929
71 Stanford -0.015233
72 Virginia -0.016708
73 Georgia Tech -0.027745
74 So. Methodist -0.034981
75 Ohio -0.039325
76 Iowa -0.040193
77 San Diego St. -0.048485
78 Rice -0.053332
79 Toledo -0.055221
80 Michigan St. -0.065164
81 Indiana -0.073672
82 Missouri -0.087063
83 Rutgers -0.091867
84 Arizona -0.108219
85 Bowling Green -0.113066
86 West Virginia -0.115661
87 UNLV -0.116576
88 Middle Ten. -0.125988
89 Fresno St. -0.128077
90 N Texas -0.128987
91 La. Lafayette -0.130211
92 Vanderbilt -0.151234
93 Utah St. -0.175431
94 U. Miami -0.175690
95 Old Dominion -0.177722
96 E. Michigan -0.184616
97 Tulsa -0.187296
98 Army -0.198268
99 Arizona St. -0.206919
100 Connecticut -0.217007
101 Navy -0.219959
102 Nebraska -0.236604
103 Cal (Berkeley) -0.241982
104 Texas St. -0.262824
105 Fla. Atlantic -0.269242
106 La. Tech -0.279223
107 Florida Int’l -0.284677
108 W. Michigan -0.290178
109 Ball St. -0.295605
110 Georgia St. -0.300620
111 UTEP -0.302327
112 Colorado -0.305555
113 Kent St. -0.309666
114 Colorado St. -0.324134
115 Miami U. -0.331309
116 Boston Coll. -0.339210
117 Arkansas St. -0.377362
118 S Florida -0.378787
119 Virginia Tech -0.395842
120 C. Michigan -0.404578
121 Temple -0.452837
122 No. Illinois -0.455459
123 La. Monroe -0.456217
124 Northwestern -0.477106
125 New Mexico -0.515395
126 New Mexico St. -0.558076
127 Massachusetts -0.569305
128 Hawaii -0.601601
129 UNC-Charlotte -0.655915
130 Nevada (Reno) -0.665317
131 Akron -0.683369

10/23/2022 Conferences

1 SEC 0.276984
2 Big XII 0.218249
3 Pac-12 0.139694
4 Big Ten 0.119500
5 ACC 0.116852
6 AAC -0.011416
7 Sun Belt -0.035286
8 Indpendents -0.133681
9 CUSA -0.159576
10 MWC -0.188330
11 MAC -0.262409

10/16/2022

1 Clemson 0.669204
2 Tennessee 0.633229
3 Michigan 0.623244
4 Georgia 0.621459
5 Ole Miss 0.606535
6 TCU 0.572979
7 Alabama 0.542778
8 UCLA 0.531846
9 Ohio St. 0.523750
10 Syracuse 0.496285
11 So. California 0.449313
12 Illinois 0.407252
13 Mississippi St. 0.366125
14 Utah 0.346661
15 Purdue 0.344501
16 N Carolina 0.336761
17 Penn St. 0.333917
18 Texas 0.319410
19 LSU 0.312338
20 Tulane 0.312253
21 Oregon 0.308621
22 Oregon St. 0.305081
23 Maryland 0.305081
24 N Carolina St. 0.302859
25 Kansas St. 0.300091
26 Wake Forest 0.294587
27 Kentucky 0.290534
28 Kansas 0.290416
29 Liberty 0.259394
30 Coastal Car. 0.247410
31 C. Florida 0.226126
32 Oklahoma St. 0.224483
33 James Madison 0.212116
34 Troy 0.200273
35 Oklahoma 0.191180
36 S Alabama 0.176057
37 Arkansas 0.167909
38 Florida St. 0.165154
39 S Carolina 0.157172
40 Air Force 0.133401
41 Cincinnati 0.132509
42 Houston 0.116619
43 Tex. San Antonio 0.107788
44 Washington St. 0.104491
45 Georgia Tech 0.099997
46 Texas Tech 0.094309
47 BYU 0.084869
48 So. Methodist 0.081140
49 Pittsburgh 0.078617
50 Memphis 0.073815
51 Ala. Birmingham 0.070487
52 Washington 0.070176
53 Florida 0.065093
54 Minnesota 0.060869
55 East Carolina 0.056817
56 Texas A&M 0.053394
57 Georgia So. 0.046977
58 Auburn 0.027255
59 Boise St. 0.021378
60 Appalachian St. 0.018604
61 Iowa 0.003148
62 Notre Dame 0.000333
63 Indiana -0.000007
64 Wyoming -0.002868
65 Iowa St. -0.010037
66 Toledo -0.014764
67 San Jose St. -0.017677
68 So. Mississippi -0.021526
69 Duke -0.026819
70 W. Kentucky -0.029781
71 UNLV -0.031259
72 N Texas -0.031895
73 West Virginia -0.032509
74 Baylor -0.033038
75 Vanderbilt -0.042181
76 Utah St. -0.067620
77 Wisconsin -0.082077
78 Louisville -0.084532
79 Stanford -0.084975
80 Virginia -0.088288
81 Rice -0.095894
82 Michigan St. -0.096168
83 Old Dominion -0.103386
84 U. Miami -0.110247
85 Buffalo -0.110395
86 Arizona -0.110434
87 San Diego St. -0.113215
88 Marshall -0.118253
89 Ohio -0.124620
90 Missouri -0.145768
91 Middle Ten. -0.146211
92 Rutgers -0.146411
93 Fla. Atlantic -0.147063
94 Cal (Berkeley) -0.154005
95 Navy -0.164939
96 Nebraska -0.184982
97 Texas St. -0.186352
98 Fresno St. -0.186891
99 Tulsa -0.194664
100 Arizona St. -0.196021
101 Bowling Green -0.202626
102 La. Lafayette -0.203403
103 La. Tech -0.215184
104 Connecticut -0.230539
105 Miami U. -0.233015
106 Army -0.233427
107 Colorado -0.235683
108 Ball St. -0.242322
109 E. Michigan -0.248448
110 Arkansas St. -0.271946
111 La. Monroe -0.272389
112 Georgia St. -0.278763
113 Boston Coll. -0.298019
114 Kent St. -0.310751
115 C. Michigan -0.322169
116 Temple -0.324662
117 Florida Int’l -0.326191
118 Virginia Tech -0.338757
119 UTEP -0.344917
120 Colorado St. -0.345914
121 No. Illinois -0.381096
122 Northwestern -0.386294
123 W. Michigan -0.408235
124 New Mexico -0.421840
125 S Florida -0.423737
126 UNC-Charlotte -0.459450
127 Hawaii -0.470617
128 Akron -0.573192
129 New Mexico St. -0.579226
130 Nevada (Reno) -0.628390
131 Massachusetts -0.671463

10/09/2022

1 Clemson 0.583051
2 Georgia 0.566898
3 Alabama 0.557534
4 Ohio St. 0.552117
5 Ole Miss 0.501758
6 UCLA 0.447233
7 Tennessee 0.440778
8 Southern Calif. 0.436596
9 Michigan 0.435572
10 Mississippi St. 0.422263
11 TCU 0.380894
12 N. Carolina St. 0.354225
13 Kansas 0.351827
14 Oregon 0.340345
15 Penn St. 0.336286
16 Syracuse 0.333930
17 Wake Forest 0.317381
18 James Madison 0.316852
19 Illinois 0.315340
20 Coastal Car. 0.308708
21 Kansas St. 0.302726
22 Tulane 0.270421
23 Oklahoma St. 0.247288
24 LSU 0.245369
25 Notre Dame 0.239431
26 North Carolina 0.233772
27 Purdue 0.212973
28 Washington St. 0.207135
29 San Jose St. 0.199397
30 Texas 0.198857
31 Liberty 0.196614
32 Florida St. 0.195379
33 Utah 0.183372
34 BYU 0.180587
35 Memphis 0.169555
36 Houston 0.168568
37 Maryland 0.149961
38 Cincinnati 0.143174
39 C. Florida 0.131821
40 Kentucky 0.129359
41 South Carolina 0.125012
42 Troy 0.112309
43 Auburn 0.105417
44 Oregon St. 0.102072
45 Georgia Tech 0.100776
46 Cal (Berkeley) 0.097984
47 Florida 0.092914
48 S. Alabama 0.084881
49 Texas Tech 0.075277
50 UNLV 0.072386
51 TX San Anton’ 0.070511
52 Arkansas 0.066629
53 Baylor 0.065417
54 Iowa St. 0.061866
55 Pittsburgh 0.059447
56 Minnesota 0.045162
57 Oklahoma 0.045060
58 Duke 0.044557
59 Alabama B’ham 0.042612
60 App. St. 0.039801
61 Wyoming 0.035192
62 Air Force 0.031132
63 Indiana 0.022771
64 East Carolina 0.019721
65 Iowa 0.016225
66 Texas A&M 0.012770
67 Marshall -0.008955
68 Rice -0.022927
69 S. Methodist -0.031057
70 Wisconsin -0.033798
71 Arizona -0.037166
72 Boise St. -0.038652
73 Vanderbilt -0.055178
74 Washington -0.057972
75 Virginia -0.063536
76 Middle Ten. -0.079340
77 Texas St. -0.080489
78 Utah St. -0.085188
79 Buffalo -0.087687
80 Navy -0.088053
81 Louisville -0.096469
82 Ga. Southern -0.101803
83 West Virginia -0.102467
84 Southern MS -0.105996
85 Missouri -0.114163
86 Rutgers -0.129746
87 W. Kentucky -0.130009
88 Toledo -0.132222
89 North Texas -0.134194
90 Miami U. -0.137542
91 La. Tech -0.140237
92 E. Michigan -0.147111
93 San Diego St. -0.150818
94 U. Miami -0.154688
95 Ohio -0.157409
96 Nebraska -0.164726
97 Arkansas St. -0.185711
98 Tulsa -0.201419
99 Connecticut -0.201826
100 La. Lafayette -0.201996
101 New Mexico -0.207673
102 Stanford -0.209402
103 Temple -0.210107
104 Arizona St. -0.211136
105 Michigan St. -0.216904
106 Bowling Green -0.217077
107 La. Monroe -0.220260
108 Kent St. -0.225590
109 Old Dominion -0.226742
110 Colorado St. -0.227588
111 Army -0.241138
112 Fla. Atlantic -0.247303
113 Florida Int’l -0.251173
114 Boston College -0.274606
115 Fresno St. -0.276870
116 Ball St. -0.288515
117 W. Michigan -0.288694
118 Georgia St. -0.308265
119 UTEP -0.313446
120 Virginia Tech -0.320024
121 Colorado -0.340131
122 South Florida -0.352298
123 Nevada (Reno) -0.375297
124 Northwestern -0.396350
125 Akron -0.414878
126 C. Michigan -0.436504
127 UNC-Charlotte -0.459068
128 N. Illinois -0.477944
129 Massachusetts -0.520425
130 Hawaii -0.552848
131 New Mex. St. -0.666304

Week 1 Reaction and Top 25 2023

In College Football, General LSU, History, Me, Post-game, Rankings, Rankings Commentary on September 9, 2023 at 4:11 AM

Since the last blog…

Sometimes long weekends are the worst scenario.  It was basically Wednesday by the time I was able to review some of the things that went wrong during the LSU game. If I had waited to review all of them, I might have never written another blog.  Obviously I’m not a beat reporter in Baton Rouge, so I rely on public statements and coverage from the people who are based around the program.  That process was delayed by a day or more given that the game took place on Sunday night.  I did have Friday the 1st off, but nothing had happened yet.  I had decided to go out of town to a baseball game on Saturday, so I couldn’t write live reactions about the teams who played on Saturday. 

On Sunday, I barely made it back in time for the game, and then Mondays are workdays for me whether I go into work or not.  My bosses check to make sure I’ve made enough progress on Tuesday mornings, and I have the type of job where I always have to spend time preparing for the next day the night before anyway.  Unfortunately, I don’t just clock in and clock out without having to think about it until I clock in again.

LSU-Florida St. Reaction and Historical Comparisons

Anyway, I do feel a little good right now that at least I didn’t pick LSU to win the SEC West or make the playoff.  I’m not throwing in the towel though.  There have been teams with rough starts who ended up doing well in the SEC, but it’s pretty rare to be one of the top teams nationally.  Ohio St. got run out of their own stadium against Virginia Tech in the first week of September 2014 before winning the first College Football Playoff, but that’s kind of the exception that proves the rule.  

Also, the Buckeyes had two months before they had to play a major-conference opponent who would finish with 9 wins or more.  That was a long time to fix the issues in the Virginia Tech game, and there was even a close call against a Penn St. team (which would finish 7-6) in the interim.  I think LSU has a lot less time.  Mississippi St., LSU’s opponent a week from today, will win 9 games or more.

In Columbia on October 6, 2012, Marcus Lattimore gained as many yards on the ground (109) as Georgia QB Aaron Murray gained in the air. LSU handed South Carolina its first loss the following week. The Bulldogs would win the SEC East over the Gamecocks and the Gators.

A couple of years before that, Georgia got blown out by South Carolina, 35-7. in early October but came just a couple of yards short of beating Alabama to win the SEC and make the BCS championship game (which they most likely would have won given how easily the Tide handled Notre Dame).  I think that’s a more realistic example for LSU to hope to follow (possibly making the SEC title game and playing better than last year).  Georgia of course had to overcome that game to win the East whereas LSU’s loss to Florida St. does not count in the SEC standings.  Unlike the Ohio St. example, the Bulldogs’ next big game (in hindsight and at the time) was just a couple of games later against Florida, who would finish 11-2.  The only bad thing about following that Georgia example would be having to wait another 10 years to actually win a national championship. 

I’ll update the Florida St. rivalry blog another time, but it’s just crazy how cursed LSU seems to be in the series.  Of course, I still think LSU would have done quite well if they had played the Seminoles annually from about 2001 to 2019 (minus a couple of losses to Jameis, I suppose).

Thoughts on Brian Kelly

I said I’m not throwing in the towel on this season.  I’m also not throwing in the towel on Brian Kelly.  This was Kelly’s 15th game.  Ed Orgeron lost to Troy in his 13th game in charge (two weeks after a 30-point loss at Mississippi St. that I still argue was worse).  Les Miles lost his 12th game by 20 to a Georgia team that finished 10-3.  Say what you will about Miles and Orgeron after the respective national championships, but no one was whining about it taking too long to get there at the end of 2007 (Miles’ third year) or 2019 (Orgeron’s third full year) seasons.  By the way, 2014 was Urban Meyer’s third year at Ohio St., and Nick Saban didn’t win his first at Alabama until his third year (he had taken four years to win one at LSU).  So even if it’s safe to assume a national championship is off the table already, I never thought it was a highly realistic goal for this year anyway.

LSU Head Coach Brian Kelly went on a bit of a rant at the end of his press conference on Tuesday.

Kelly can be a smooth talker, so I don’t always hold too much stock in his press conferences and whatnot, but I liked his rant at the end of his week-opening press conference.  I disagree somewhat with faulting the enthusiasm gap, but I think it was a good message to put out there, and it showed he took onboard many of the issues fans and media pointed out.

“I could go through a number of different situations.  We don’t get to the chains on third and 5… We’ve got a drop on third and 6 trying to get upfield… We’re 4th and 1 and we’re trying to make a play instead of reading what the defender is giving you.  I could elaborate on defense.  We’re spinning down a safety[, and] he’s watching the quarterback.  We could have been more creative with play-calling.  We could have been better defensively and [made fewer] spy calls and [brought] more pressure.  I could attack the whole thing.  The bottom line is I’ve got to get our football team thinking the right way and play[ing] with a competitive edge.” 

I tried to clean up some of the grammar.  He usually speaks better than that, but I’ll forgive it.  I’ll accept some grammatical hiccups in exchange for his not sounding like a politician sometimes.

Other Results and Reactions

At least Kelly has been overshadowed somewhat by the hysterics about Dabo after Clemson’s loss to Duke.  My prediction of those Tigers being the team to beat in the ACC isn’t looking too good right now.  But that 2014 Virginia Tech team was in the ACC and ended up losing 6 games, 5 of them in conference, so we shouldn’t rush to any conclusions about that conference either.  Even if Clemson continues to disappoint, I might still be right that the ACC champion will have a good shot at the Playoff though.

If I were a betting man (sports betting is still illegal where I live anyway), I would have taken Colorado +20.5.  Although I did leave TCU ranked, I wasn’t very convinced they were going to be a competitive team this year.  Deion performed better than many more experienced coaches in getting a bunch of transfers and other new players to support each other and have the needed enthusiasm.  Whatever happens this season, he definitely did something right in preparing for Week 1.

Colorado head coach Deion Sanders confers with his son, S Shiloh Sanders, on Saturday in Ft. Worth. Sanders’ other son, Shadeur, threw for 510 yards in the upset win.

I don’t believe in making drastic changes after one week unless necessary, so I’m not dropping LSU and Clemson from the top 25.  TCU was low enough that they will drop out though.  I don’t really have the time and energy to re-work the whole thing even if I wanted to.  I don’t really have a long list of teams that were just outside of the top 25 either. 

I also wanted to put some of the conference talk into perspective.  South Carolina has a much lower status in the SEC than North Carolina has in the ACC.  The Tar Heels were the ACC runners-up in 2015 and 2022 and represented the conference in the post-2020 Orange Bowl.  They would have been #2 in the conference had Notre Dame not temporarily joined.  The Gamecocks have only made one SEC championship game, and that was back in 2010.  They have only won 8 games or more twice since the 2013 season.

Florida is obviously a more successful program in the big picture than Utah is, but the Gators lost 5 SEC games (and two other games) last season and 6 the season before, going 6-7 overall both seasons.  Utah went 10-4 in each of the last two seasons, winning the Pac-12 both years.  I know Florida beat Utah anyway last year, but you can’t expect the SEC to win every game like that.

LSU-Florida St. was the only game of the three that was an apples-to-apples comparison. 

It is interesting that the Pac-12 is disintegrating at the same the conference had the most successful Week 1; but other than Colorado, nothing is too impressive based on recent seasons.

I considered ranking Purdue in preseason, and Fresno St. beat the Boilermakers on the road. I thought it was good to make sure one team from outside of the major conferences (and Notre Dame) was included. I also considered Wyoming, which beat Texas Tech; but the Cowboys rarely sustain their early-season successes whereas Fresno St. is often one of the top teams in the Mountain West. I also take overtime wins with more of a grain of salt.

Top 25

RankTeamLast
1 Ohio St. 1
2 Georgia 2
3 Michigan 3
4 Alabama 4
5 Florida St. 11
6 Southern CA 7
7 Penn St. 8
8 Utah 9
9 Texas 10
10 Tennessee 12
11 Notre Dame 13
12 Ole Miss 14
13 Oregon 15
14 Duke
15 LSU 5
16 Clemson 6
17 Kansas St. 18
18 Washington 21
19 UCLA 16
20 N Carolina
21 Oregon St. 20
22 Mississippi St. 23
23 Pittsburgh 24
24 Fresno St.
25 Colorado

Out of Top 25: (17) TCU, (19) S. Carolina, (22) Boise St., (25) Texas Tech

Final Pre-Bowl Ratings and Reaction to Major Bowl Selections

In Bowls, College Football, College Football Playoff, High School, History, Post-game, Rankings, Rankings Commentary on December 4, 2022 at 5:29 PM

I don’t have that much to say about the LSU game itself.  I thought they would lose by single digits if they had a good day, and they basically would have lost by three if you take out two disastrous plays (and leave everything else the same): a blocked field goal from fairly close range that was returned for a touchdown, at least partly because all but a couple of players on the field forgot the rules (a 10-point swing), and an interception deep in LSU territory that resulted from a ball that was falling to the ground that hit an LSU helmet instead (this set up a fairly easy touchdown drive).

I’m not surprised that Alabama and Tennessee went ahead of LSU in bowl consideration given that they each only have two losses. I would argue if LSU had beaten Texas A&M, but my guess is that didn’t matter either. Rightly or wrongly (obviously wrongly in my view), Alabama was seen as the best SEC team after Georgia; and Tennessee’s win over LSU would have been a tie-breaker for a New Year’s Six bowl even if one didn’t punish LSU for the extra loss.

LSU is a superior team to Purdue, but sometimes it can be hard to be enthusiastic about playing such a game. I think the Boilermakers will be relatively excited to play in the game and probably would be to play in any bowl.

I do think Tennessee should have gone to the Sugar Bowl, but I guess we didn’t need another game between Alabama and Clemson to take place in the Orange Bowl. All the other New Year’s Six Bowls were fairly obvious match-ups according to the guidelines. USC vs. Tulane in the Cotton especially made sense as the two westernmost teams not bound to the Rose Bowl. They will play one another in a bowl for the first time since the Trojans won the Rose Bowl after the 1931 season. That game might have helped inspire the creation of the Sugar Bowl a few years later. USC and Tulane also split a home-and-home in the 1940s.

I had said Friday that Ohio St. should move up if another team fell out of the top four.  I didn’t realize that TCU and USC were far enough ahead of Tennessee and Alabama that they could afford a loss and stay in the top five.  Actually, my first draft of the ratings had USC ahead of Ohio St.; but then I realized that somehow Utah was being counted as a better opponent than they were. Not to bore the reader with the details, but I try not to penalize teams as much for losing a close game on the road, but that wasn’t meant to treat the winner as one of the top teams in the country as the weighted ratings do if not corrected.

The Trojans did beat one more top-25 team than Tennessee did.  It hurt the Vols that LSU lost in a way because now the Tigers are not in the highest classification of the weighted ratings.  Had LSU won, Georgia would not have fallen out of that classification (which right now is the top 8 teams).  In the bigger picture, USC beat 8 Pac-12 teams and Notre Dame whereas Tennessee only beat 6 SEC teams and Pitt. You can think the former is more impressive while still having the SEC as the best conference.

I’ve written about Clemson playing a deceptive number of quality opponents, so that’s why they’re ahead of Alabama.  The Tigers only beat one top 25 team (the same number Alabama has beaten), but they’ve beaten five other teams in the top 42 to Alabama’s one.  Illinois is #39 and was a missed field goal from beating Michigan, and #37 Pitt took Tennessee to overtime, so I’m not talking about opponents that anyone can take for granted.  (For an even better example, Florida is #51 and beat Utah.).  Alabama does have better losses, but that doesn’t make up for that volume of decent wins.

Florida LB Amari Burney intercepts a pass to win the game against Utah in Gainesville on September 3. In hindsight, it’s another reminder that there are a lot of teams (including those who fall well outside of the top 25) who are threats to some of the best teams, even eventual Power-5 conference champions. On Friday, the Utes beat USC to claim the Pac-12 title and eliminate the Trojans from Playoff consideration.

I think it’s appropriate that the respective Big XII and Pac-12 champions round out the top 10.  I don’t think Tulane, Troy, and UTSA would beat many of the 5 to 10 teams immediately below them, but I don’t mind that in my system teams like that are in the top 20 as long as they’re not in position for the Playoff.  I’m glad not to be in New Orleans to hear from the Tulane fans who don’t know anything about national college football listing all the SEC teams they’d beat with their one good team in a generation though. I have mixed feelings about Troy playing UTSA in the Cure Bowl. On the one hand, it’s good that they’re both playing a ranked team; but on the other hand, I wonder how they would do against one of the lower Power-5 bowl teams.

I know the Playoff is going to expand to 12 teams, but one or two of those teams being non-Power-5 champions is fine with me.  I will want most Power 5 teams to be eliminated with three or four losses.  This isn’t the NFL; I’m not willing to take a team seriously as the potential national champion if they lost 1/3 or more of their regular-season games.

I don’t like Oregon being ahead of Oregon St. even though I do think the Ducks have been the better team overall this year.  USC didn’t beat Oregon (both “civil war” teams played Utah), so it doesn’t hurt Oregon for the Trojans to lose.  USC did beat Oregon St.  It also helps that Oregon’s best non-conference opponent solidified its claim as the best team in the country.  Oregon St. played Boise and Fresno, and neither is as good as LSU anyway, so there wasn’t as much of a gain there (there was a slight improvement to strength of schedule though).

My formula did put the Egg Bowl rivalry in the “correct” order (according to head-to-head results) though, with Mississippi St. at #25 and Ole Miss at #26.  Of course, it helps that Mississippi St. played Georgia instead of Vanderbilt (all the other conference opponents were the same, and the two teams have the same record).

Some teams moved up or down more than they normally would given how many teams didn’t play.  I hadn’t worked on the weighted formula in a few years and it was still new before COVID, so there were still some kinks to iron out.  Given that most of the changes still made sense given the results and there was no turnover in the top 25, I don’t think I changed anything too abruptly.

I’ve updated the ratings after the Army-Navy game before, but this year I’ll just treat is as a bowl game since neither will play an actual bowl game.

RankTeamLast
1Georgia1
2Michigan2
3Texas Christian3
4Ohio St.5
5USC4
6Tennessee6
7Clemson9
8Alabama7
9Kansas St.15
10Utah14
11Penn St.8
12Tulane17
13LSU10
14Troy22
15Texas12
16Oregon13
17Oregon St.11
18TX-San Antonio25
19Florida St.18
20Washington20
21UCLA16
22Boise St.19
23S Carolina23
24Notre Dame21
25Mississippi St.24

For the ratings of all 131 teams and all FBS conferences (and independents), see here or click “Knights’ Ratings” above at any time while browsing this site.

Rivalry Week Top 25 and CFP Reaction

In College Football, College Football Playoff, Rankings, Rankings Commentary on December 2, 2022 at 2:51 PM

CFP Reaction

I ended up agreeing with the committee regarding the top 5.  I’ll be really surprised if two of the current top 4 lose this weekend.  I had said before last week that I thought Ohio St. would be one of the stronger non-champions were they to lose to Michigan.

Neither Tennessee nor Alabama, who each have two losses, had a non-conference game that was worth very much to compensate for the extra loss.  The SEC is better, but it’s not so much better that you don’t need either a very good non-conference game or a ninth conference game. 

I did think that LSU would have deserved consideration if they had finished with 2 losses, but the Tigers did get the ninth conference game when they qualified for the SEC Championship Game.  This would have given LSU a second win over a team who finished with a winning record in conference.

Anyway, as to who #6 should be, I disagree with those who have Tennessee behind Alabama.  Tennessee not only played the #1 team in the country by virtue of playing in the SEC East, but they also beat both of the top teams in the SEC West.  Alabama didn’t beat anyone in the top 6 (there are 7 teams per division) of the SEC East, and they also didn’t beat the only team with a winning conference record (LSU) in the SEC West.  The Tide did lose two games in the last second, but I think beating more good teams should count for more than how close the losses were.  Alabama didn’t have to beat a team like either team who beat Tennessee.  Texas was a better non-conference opponent than Pitt, but that doesn’t make up for Alabama playing Vanderbilt as the extra cross-divisional opponent while Tennessee drew LSU, not to mention Georgia and South Carolina.

Ratings and Other Thoughts

I don’t think this technicality matters as far as Playoff arguments but something else that annoys me is if you lose a tiebreaker for the conference championship game, you’re still considered a divisional co-champion.  Even though LSU lost after clinching the spot in the championship game, Alabama can now claim they’ve won the SEC West 10 of 11 years (the exception being 2019).  I prefer the NFL approach.  If you lose the tiebreaker to the team that advances as the winner of the division, you’re not called a champion or co-champion.  The previous time the Tide lost it outright was also to LSU, in 2011.  Since divisions will cease to exist in about two years, I hope we can get at least one more outright win in the next two years.

Back to my rankings/ratings, you may have noticed the “weighted rank” doesn’t penalize as much for losses anymore.  I’ve compensated for that by making it a smaller component of the overall total, but it still does take record into consideration to some extent.  For instance, Vanderbilt had to play four of the five best teams by conference record in the SEC and is only #39 in the weighted rankings because the Commodores also have 7 losses.  Alabama only played two of those teams and is #15 in the weighted rankings largely because there were no other losses.

So, although when I first introduced the weighted rankings they were meant to stand alone, in no universe did I think LSU was #1 last week or that Oregon St. is #2 this week (after Georgia); but those are the teams (other than Georgia) most deserving of bonus points if you will given a combination of a good record and quality opponents.  I also think it’s right that Clemson lost an extra spot (from what they are in the original unweighted formula) because their weighted rank fell to #24.  Clemson just barely edged out LSU and Oregon St. 

Sometimes you have to hold onto your hat in the last 20 minutes of a Rivalry Week game.

One might come to the conclusion that I don’t give conferences other than the SEC enough of a chance with the weighted component, but there are five Pac-12 teams in the weighted top 10 and only three SEC teams.  All things being equal, LSU and Tennessee having such tough conference slates would have caused them to finish lower than Alabama in the standings, but they both beat the Tide and ended up with the same number of conference losses as the Tide. 

USC was the only one of those five Pac-12 teams to have a better weighted rank than unweighted rank.  This was because the other four all finished with three overall losses.  It also helped that the Trojans played Notre Dame.  This compensated somewhat for USC not having played Washington and Oregon.

The other teams in the top 10 of the weighted rankings are Texas and Michigan.  Michigan is doing well being that they only played two teams in the top 40 in my overall ratings, but of course being undefeated helps.    Texas has the opposite situation: a number of top-40 opponents (4) but also a number of losses (4).  Texas has also played 5 teams that finished between numbers 41 and 65 with only one opponent (ULM) below #85.

There are only a couple of the lower teams I thought needed a little bit of explanation beyond the results of last week.

It really hurt Florida St. that Clemson and LSU lost because those games were largely responsible for the Seminoles’ having an unweighted ranking of 14 and a weighted ranking of 16 last week.  Notre Dame’s loss to USC also had some collateral effect upon the ACC as a whole as well given that the Irish beat both of the ACC title contestants and another team (Syracuse) who went .500 in conference and finished 7-5 going into the bowl game.

The only other team who seems somewhat out of place is Boise St.  The win over Utah St. wasn’t the most impressive (although to be fair, the Aggies had won 5 of 6 going into the game), but the three teams who had beaten the Broncos all had “good” weeks.  The Broncos’ worst loss, UTEP, is still not a good team; but the Miners improved their strength of schedule considerably by playing UTSA.  You probably know what happened with Oregon St. (who beat Boise St. in Week 1) and why their stock improved.  Also, BYU improved its strength of schedule with the win over Stanford (who played in a good conference and somehow beat Notre Dame…. Best wishes to departing head coach David Shaw, by the way. How he made it so long is beyond me).

Boise St. LB Ezekiel Noa sacks Fresno St. QB Logan Fife in the third quarter of what was at the time a close game in Boise on October 8. The Broncos outscored the Bulldogs 20-0 in the last 20 minutes of the game to win 40-20. A rematch will be played for the Mountain West title tomorrow, also in Boise.

I also noticed there were some games that weren’t included the last time or two I had updated the weighted rankings, so that may have played some role in why Florida St. fell after a loss and why Boise St. rose so far after a win over a now-6-loss opponent.  I think that’s also the main reason UCLA fell so much last week and rose so much this week. Without correctly factoring in how good USC was, it made the loss to the Trojans look worse than it should have; and this is now corrected.

Regardless, I like the process I’ve followed this year because it’s been a lot more stable.  I don’t like to say a given team is top 10 one week and not in the top 25 the next or that six or seven teams are in this week’s top 25 but weren’t in last week’s.  We don’t really find out that much about a team in one game, especially not when it’s 1 of 12 games, so I don’t like to see much volatility later in the year even if there are some adjustments in the methodology.

Top 25

RankTeamLast
1Georgia1
2Michigan4
3Texas Christian3
4USC7
5Ohio St.2
6Tennessee 8
7Alabama9
8Penn St.10
9Clemson5
10LSU6
11Oregon St.16
12Texas18
13Oregon11
14Utah12
15Kansas St.21
16UCLA23
17Tulane20
18Florida St.13
19Boise St.
20Washington24
21Notre Dame15
22Troy14
23S Carolina
24Mississippi St.
25TX San Antonio22
N Carolina17
Ole Miss19
Coastal Caroliina25

For the detailed ratings of all 131 teams, see here or follow the link in the heading for “Knights Ratings” at any time while browsing the site.

The College Football Playoff Picture with Two Games Left

In College Football, College Football Playoff, Preview, Rankings, Rankings Commentary on November 24, 2022 at 5:43 PM

I wanted to start by saying happy Thanksgiving. I thought it was best to get this out today since there is only one game, which is probably not of crucial importance.

Because they have been so dominant until now, Georgia is the only one-loss team I can see finishing ahead of either LSU with two wins in the final games or USC with two wins in the final games.  The loser of Ohio St.-Michigan will not have anything on their resume similar to Georgia’s wins over Oregon and Tennessee.  It could be an interesting argument if TCU loses or if both LSU and USC lose though. I don’t automatically discount non-champions (even with the same number of losses), but I believe they should be looked at more skeptically.

Strength of Schedule

I touched on this last week, but something that many basic fans either don’t grasp or don’t bother to look into is how much schedules vary.  Most conferences are not like the Big XII where it’s a pure round robin; but even in the Big XII, there are still three non-conference games.

I wanted to go over who is on the schedule of the following teams that have a realistic chance at the playoff.  I’ll go over the top four teams of the respective conferences and the biggest non-conference game.  I’ll mention TCU last because I think most people’s sense of their schedule is accurate.

LSU: Georgia (plays December 3), Alabama (win), Tennessee (loss), Ole Miss (win), Florida St. (loss).

Georgia: LSU (plays December 3), Alabama (did not play), Tennessee (win), Ole Miss (did not play), Oregon (win).

USC: Oregon (not played; possible conference championship opponent {NPPCCO}), Washington (NPPCCO), Utah (loss), UCLA (win), Notre Dame (play on Saturday).

Ohio St.: Michigan (plays Saturday), Penn St. (win), Iowa (win, may play again), Purdue (NPPCCO), Notre Dame (win).

Michigan: Ohio St. (plays Saturday), Penn St. (win), Iowa (win, may play again), Purdue (NPPCCO), Connecticut (win).

Clemson: North Carolina (plays December 3), Florida St. (win), Pitt (did not play), Duke (did not play), Notre Dame (loss).

TCU has beaten the following: Kansas St., Texas, Oklahoma St., Baylor, and Texas Tech.  Out of conference, the best win was over 6-5 SMU.  As I discussed in the last blog, the Horned Frogs will play either Kansas St. or Texas for a second time in the championship game. 

Former walk-on Stetson Bennett IV (pictured above throwing on the run against Florida in Jacksonville last month) helped lead Georgia to its first national championship since 1980 and has the Bulldogs well-positioned for another.

Early Resume Comparison

I’m not making predictions about the remaining games, but I’ll discuss the teams as if I’m comparing them at the end of the season.  For instance, if I say LSU will have beaten Georgia, what I’m talking about is the only scenario in which LSU is a contender. I don’t expect LSU to come particularly close to beating Georgia.

The committee does not consider the wins a team would have at the end of the year, or Clemson and USC would be higher.  Those are the only two above who have two really decent opponents left.  I think it’s harder to have to win successive games like that.  Even moreso with USC because it would be three strong wins in a row: UCLA, Notre Dame, and then the #2 Pac-12 team.

If Iowa beats Nebraska, which is highly likely, LSU and TCU will be the only teams to have played every other top-five team of their respective conference.  I do think the quality of LSU’s top opponents would make up for the extra loss if TCU were to lose a game.

I know it doesn’t seem like either Big Ten team would be missing a big resume bullet point by not playing Purdue, but Purdue has one fewer loss than Illinois, which led Michigan with about one second left on the clock last week.  Also, if you’re not really missing any competition by not playing one of the top five teams of your 14-team conference, that doesn’t say much about your conference schedule.

As I suggested, I’ll be impressed by USC if the Trojans manage to win the next two weeks, and I would not be bitter about it if they were to edge out LSU.  I tip my hat to the committee for having LSU #5 right now.  I think it shows they understand the lists above, and if the last two games barely put USC ahead of LSU, so be it. 

That’s not to say I don’t think LSU would have an argument.  One key point is USC’s loss thus far.  Utah lost to a mediocre SEC team and beat USC.  That suggests to me that USC would have more than one conference loss if they played at least four teams who finished higher in the SEC than Florida did.

This comparison only takes place if LSU wins, so we would either have an SEC non-champion having blown out USC’s best win at the beginning of the year or we would have USC avoiding one of the more dangerous teams in its conference.

Teams Who May Lose Late and Be Considered; Why Clemson Might Deserve a Spot if They Do

Putting LSU aside, Ohio St. would be a very interesting contender if they lose to Michigan.  I think they would compensate for having two fewer games against the Big Ten West as a result of the non-conference game against Notre Dame.  This argument becomes even stronger if USC is knocked out of the running by Notre Dame.

Ohio St. WR Emeka Egbuka stretches for a touchdown against Notre Dame in September in Columbus. Although the Irish have had a couple of ugly losses since then, this still may be a key win for the Buckeyes.

One-loss Michigan would be a poor contender against anyone but a one-loss TCU though.  I know Connecticut beat Liberty and became bowl-eligible, but Connecticut is not a good team.  TCU is the only team in this discussion with a similar lacking best non-conference opponent.

Maybe the committee disagrees, but I would prefer a one-loss Clemson to a one-loss Michigan.  The ACC wouldn’t be the reason, but playing two non-conference opponents with the kind of quality wins that South Carolina and Notre Dame have would make the difference for me. It would be two good non-conference opponents to zero.

As I discussed in the previous blog, one reason I give Clemson more credit so far than others do is if you play a series of let’s call them high-medium teams (not ranked but above average) such as Louisville and Wake Forest, you’re still exposing yourself to risk of a loss to a higher degree with each game.  Just ask Tennessee and Ole Miss.  They didn’t show signs of being vulnerable to teams like that over the previous month or two, but they got to the point of playing too many teams that were high-medium or better and apparently didn’t get up enough for every one. 

On the other hand, based on the above, you can imagine what the committee has probably said.  Even if these other teams are in equal conferences (the ACC is probably the worst of the bunch), Clemson has only played one team in the top five of its conference, and they lost to the only team they’ve played so far who would be in the top five of their conference.  

This conversation would probably only come up in seeding, but I wanted to address it anyway.  Some are assuming that Georgia will definitely be ahead of LSU even if they lose to the Tigers, but I’m not so sure.  If Georgia had to play Alabama and Ole Miss, it’s certainly possible they’d be entering the championship with a loss.  Right now, I think the non-conference game against Oregon resolves any doubt; but it becomes a more open question if both Oregon and Florida St. have three losses at the end of the season.  This wouldn’t matter in my ratings, but obviously how that SEC championship game plays out would influence this discussion.

Week 12 Top 25 and CFP Reaction

In College Football, College Football Playoff, General LSU, History, Post-game, Preview, Rankings, Rankings Commentary on November 22, 2022 at 8:16 PM

First, I want to note that I’ve updated the LSU-Arkansas series blog. I didn’t mention that if you didn’t watch the game, the final score is misleading. The LSU defense was extremely dominant, and the 13-3 late edge seemed almost insurmountable, although of course one more late play could have made the difference in the game. This was the third consecutive game in the series that was decided by three points and the third consecutive win by the road team, both firsts in series history.

Assuming I have time, I’ll write more about potential playoff scenarios later, but I’ll just make general comments about the ratings. I did wait to publish this until after the College Football Playoff (CFP) rankings.

The Race for #5

Since someone will lose between Ohio St. and Michigan, both currently ranked highly enough to make the four-team playoff, there is a lot of interest in who #5 is or will be.

Although in my rankings (and in the CFP’s), LSU stayed ahead of USC, I don’t necessarily fault the rankings that allowed the Trojans to go ahead. Obviously, UCLA is significantly better than UAB and the combination of UCLA and Notre Dame is significantly better than the combination of UAB and Texas A&M; but I just hope that LSU and USC can switch places just as easily if LSU beats a much better team on December 3. Even in my ratings, I expect the Trojans will go ahead with a win (over Notre Dame) after the games this weekend.

The CFP committee doesn’t let us know how close USC is to overtaking LSU, so we will just have to guess there, but I do think if they didn’t move USC ahead now, it would indicate that either (1) they aren’t going to move the Trojans ahead next week either or (2) if they do, it would be a very close call and can be just as easily switched back by LSU beating a better team in the conference championship game.  Despite what Bo Nix says, I think Oregon (assuming they make the title game… more about the “civil war” opponent below) is still a good bit behind Georgia.  If Oregon loses, that makes it worse for USC regardless of whether the Ducks still make the championship game (I think they would need Washington to lose in that scenario.)

I do have Clemson ahead of LSU right now, but I also think a win over Georgia would overcome the deficit.  It may be closer than I would have thought previously given South Carolina’s win over Tennessee.  The Gamecocks have a reasonable chance of winning the in-state rivalry though.  That win by an SEC team would also give LSU a higher rating in comparison to other competitors for #4. 

I think I value many of the same things the committee does, but I think they have a dim view of Clemson for a few reasons. For one, they just don’t seem that capable of scoring the points to keep up with a good offense; and it’s just very rare that your defense can be dominant enough against a good team (and they were anything but against Notre Dame) to compensate. In my ratings, you can win every game 7-3 and you get the same number of points as if you win 77-3 or 77-73. (I do take off a little if you win close games by three or fewer at home though.). For another, although they have played a long list of above-average teams, they’ve only played two teams in the top 20, and they’re only 1-1 against those teams. Also, those two teams each have three losses apiece. When I add in the “weighted” ratings, that’s meant to give extra credit for playing some of the best teams; but the overall ratings do not have the extreme focus on best opponents that the committee has.

Shifting ratings of prior opponents has some impact upon teams moving up and down in my ratings, but I think they’re still pretty stable being that there were only two teams that fell out of the top 25 (and they both obviously deserved to).

Although I think every reasonable ratings system has Georgia #1, there are some shortcomings being that the Bulldogs didn’t play any of the top three teams of the SEC West. If they’d played Alabama or Ole Miss, it would help LSU more to win that game. At least before the Texas A&M game, Auburn (whom Georgia plays every year) looked like the worst team in the SEC West. Mississippi St. isn’t the best either, although maybe those Bulldogs will win the Egg Bowl. I think a two-loss LSU would be a deserving #4 regardless, but I’m just talking about the numbers right now.

Other Developments in the Rankings

Tennessee’s falling four spots was reasonable.  I think they should remain ahead of Alabama.  I don’t think head-to-head is a good reason alone (given that it means the worse loss is worse for Tennessee), but the fact that Tennessee has played Georgia and Alabama hasn’t is a good reason.  Both Tennessee and Alabama have played LSU in the same stadium, and we know how those games went.

It’s also helping LSU that Florida St. has been increasing its standing.  Although I generally like Florida St. better, I’m used to having more mixed feelings in their games against Florida because I usually want to make LSU look better.  But in this year, it’s the opposite since (although LSU has played both) I think it’s better if a team LSU lost to increases its rating instead of the fourth or fifth team the Tigers will have beaten doing so.

You might have expected some of the teams to fall more due to losses, but a loss to a good team this late in the year doesn’t hurt too much given that each successive game is a lower percentage of the total.  Even a loss to a team that is destined for a less-than-impressive bowl game isn’t catastrophic.  I have a couple of SEC results in mind.  If you’re Central Florida, you can’t lose to Navy though.

Oregon St.’s rise may seem unusual, but all of their best prior opponents have been improving. Fresno St. lost its first four games against FBS opponents but has won all six since then. Boise St. started 1-2 against FBS opponents and is now 7-3 in such games. Washington St. has won three games in a row to improve to 7-4 overall. You’re probably already familiar with the gradual improvements of USC, Utah, and Washington. Although USC was high in the polls all year, they didn’t justify it much until later in the season.

Without commenting on the Playoff, USC appears to be the team to beat west of the DFW Metroplex. After struggling to score at times in the first half, the Trojans scored touchdowns, including the one above by WR Kyle Ford on the first play of the fourth quarter, on their first four possessions in the second half to take a 10-point lead in the Rose Bowl on Saturday. After UCLA threw a late interception, USC held on for a 48-45 win.

Finally, Texas has improved in recent weeks as the Oklahoma win has gotten stronger and the Alabama and TCU losses have been hurting the Longhorns less.  Some may wonder how they could possibly be ahead of Kansas St., but you can’t just look at records and conference membership.

Even within the same conference, a better strength of schedule can compensate for a loss. Obviously, Alabama is a much better team than Tulane, and even Texas’s second-best out-of-conference opponent (UTSA) is comparable to Tulane (and they actually rate better as an opponent although not overall). It also helps that Texas did not play an FCS team. Kansas St. not only played an FCS team, but that team is only 3-7 within the FCS (3-8 overall). I think TCU playing Texas again would make for a better game, but I guess we’ll see how it goes.

The Horned Frogs finish with Iowa St. and most likely Kansas St., two of the old Big XII North opponents (only three of which remain in the Big XII after the departures of Nebraska, Colorado, and Missouri). The Wildcats play Kansas, the only other former Big XII North team still in the conference. If Kansas St. wins, they’re in the championship game. If not, they’d need Texas to lose to Baylor. Even though I already think Texas is the better team, I suspect the committee would like TCU better if they beat two-loss Kansas St. rather than three-loss Texas.

Top 25

RankTeamLast
1Georgia1
2Ohio St.2
3Texas Christian3
4Michigan4
5Clemson6
6LSU8
7USC9
8Tennessee4
9Alabama7
10Penn St.11
11Oregon14
12Utah12
13Florida St.18
14Troy20
15Notre Dame15
16Oregon St.
17N Carolina10
18Texas
19Ole Miss16
20Tulane23
21Kansas St.21
22TX-San Antonio23
23UCLA13
24Washington22
25Coastal Carolina19
Central Florida17
Oklahoma St.25

Week 11 Top 25

In Bowls, College Football, College Football Playoff, General LSU, Preview, Rankings, Rankings Commentary on November 18, 2022 at 8:42 PM

This is kind of a rushed post. I always add the new rankings Saturday night or Sunday morning even if it takes until it’s sunrise for some of you; but for those who subscribe by email, it will not notify you when that is posted. Feel free to check whenever you get up on Sunday. I don’t always manage to post the conference ratings until Sunday afternoon though. By that time, I’ve also usually checked to see if any teams are out of place to make any needed corrections.

Until now, the top 25 in the blog was different from the computer top 25; but now that I’ve added the “weighted” component of the ratings, that will no longer be the case.

I apologize for this being so late, but normally I don’t even have to respond to anything work-related after 4:30 Pacific, but I was given a bunch of work right before 4:30 since one of my colleagues is on vacation. I didn’t want to have to scramble around at the last minute on Sunday, and of course I don’t want to be at all distracted on Saturday.

I also didn’t have time to update the Arkansas rivalry blog, but I should be able to update both that and the Texas A&M series this weekend. Obviously the A&M one will need to be updated again in about 8 days, so it’s possible I might wait until then.

LSU players gather around the LSU/Arkansas rivalry trophy in Fayetteville on Saturday. I can’t tell who the players in the back are, but the ones in front are (l to r) WR Jaray Jenkins, P Jay Bramblett, and S Sage Ryan.

I’ll only comment briefly about the top 25 given time constraints of it being late and there being games in less than 14 hours.

Commentary about Rankings Changes

Tennessee has passed up Michigan, but this is rather academic being that the Ohio St./Michigan winner is expected to pass up the Vols and remain ahead until the bowl season. The loser is expected to be behind the Vols and stay there until the bowl season.

With the win over Ole Miss, Alabama has passed up the Tigers, but this also likely doesn’t mean much as to the final pre-bowl ratings. If LSU loses a third game and Alabama doesn’t (unlikely against FCS Austin Peay or Auburn), Alabama will be ahead. If LSU beats UAB, Texas A&M, and Georgia, LSU will be ahead regardless of what the Tide does. I’m not making promises aout the top 4, but LSU may also pass up multiple other teams, especially those who don’t play a championship game, with wins in the remaining contests.

I doubt it has a bearing on the national championship picture, but the Pac-12 is very interesting. I was correct in suggesting people pay attention to the Washington-Oregon game last week. Putting the Huskies’ new rating aside, the Pac-12 now has four teams between #9 and #13. That’s interesting enough, but all four of those teams play another one of those teams this weekend. There will be two one-loss teams and possibly three two-loss teams in the conference heading into the final weekend. The championship now involves the best two teams, so every two-loss team after this week may still have a realistic chance if one of the winners were to lose next week.

I don’t have a whole lot to say about Texas-San Antonio (who mostly has moved up by virtue of not losing in not-very-good conference, or Oklahoma St., who has been in and out of the top 25 due to inconsistent performance.

But there is another interesting new team, which is Central Florida. You may have heard of them. The Knights will potentially unseat Tulane from a New Years Six spot by virtue of beating the Green Wave; however, there is also some potential drama in the closing weeks regarding crowning a champion of the American conference. The Knights, who have beaten both teams already, will most likely play the winner of Cincinnati (which made the Playoff last year) and Tulane (set for November 26) in championship week.

I completely disagree with championship games that simply match the two best teams, particularly when they involve a rematch (which, if the winner has a better record, is completely unfair to whomever won the first time), but it does help make for some excitement.

Top 25

RankTeamLast
1Georgia1
2Ohio St.2
3Texas Christian3
4Tennessee5
5Michigan4
6Clemson6
7Alabama11
8LSU8
9USC9
10N Carolina15
11Penn St.17
12Utah13
13UCLA7
14Oregon10
15Notre Dame18
16Ole Miss12
17Central Florida
18Florida St.18
19Coastal Carolina21
20Troy24
21Kansas St.20
22Washington
23Tulane16
24TX San Antonio
25Oklahoma St.
N Carolina St.14
Texas19
Syracuse22
Liberty25

Week 10 Top 25 & Week 11 Preview

In College Football, Conference Reports, Preview, Rankings, Rankings Commentary on November 11, 2022 at 1:21 PM

I got more views this week than I’ve gotten since the pandemic, so welcome to anyone who might be new here. Happy Veterans Day as well.

I thought about making this week the week where I removed the subjective input into the top 25 below (see here for the completely objective unweighted ratings as of right now), but the weighted rankings aren’t quite where I want them yet.  This coming week may clear up a few things.  I think the big game to watch will be in the SEC again, Alabama against Ole Miss.  I’m not one to be sympathetic to Alabama; but win or lose it was going to be hard for them to physically and mentally recover from Saturday and play another road game that could help decide the SEC West (somehow LSU is in the driver’s seat now though).

Oregon-Washington is an interesting upset opportunity.  The Huskies just beat a ranked Oregon St. team for their third straight win, and UO-UW is a rivalry game for both teams.  They’re often the two best Pacific Northwest teams, especially now that Boise St. has reverted to mediocrity, and both teams are a little more high-profile than their respective in-state counterparts.

Washington RB Sean McGrew is tripped up for a loss last year in Seattle. The Huskies were held to an average of 2.3 yards per carry and did not score a touchdown until the fourth quarter as Oregon won 26-16, the Ducks’ third straight win in the series. The previous two games in the series (2018 and 2019) were decided by a total of only seven points though.

It will also be interesting to see if Clemson bounces back against Louisville.  The Cardinals have won four in a row after a 2-3 start.

There are two other matchups of ranked teams according to the polls.  TCU travels down the I-35 to Austin, and Central Florida visits New Orleans to play Tulane.  I want to make sure not to over-rate TCU or Tulane for having good records but not playing great competition.  Either they’ll earn their ranking a little bit better or they’ll prove the skeptics right.

Also, I thought there was enough overhaul going on this week as is with the two big SEC games and the instability of the ACC and the Big XII.  It’s hard to balance record versus big games.  I want to make sure teams like Alabama aren’t penalized too much for losses to very competitive teams; but if I lessen the effect of “good” losses, Tennessee could be as high as #2.  I’m not sure that’s appropriate either. 

With Arkansas’s loss to Liberty, the Big XII is starting to creep up on the SEC.  We will know a lot more the last two weeks of the season though.  Almost half of the SEC plays out of conference in two weeks, and then there are the annual rivalry games the following week.  I at least expect Georgia to beat Georgia Tech, but anything can happen in the others: Kentucky-Louisville, Florida-Florida St., and South Carolina-Clemson.

Speaking of the Big XII and Rivalry Week, I like that KU and K-State are now playing one another at the end of the season unlike in prior years; and they’re both pretty good now.  TCU will likely finish in first place in the Big XII regular season being that the Horned Frogs are two games ahead, but K-State is part of a 3-way tie for second with Baylor and Texas (who play one another during Rivalry Week).  Kansas is tied for fourth with Oklahoma St.  Every team has three games left. There are no late bye weeks or late out-of-conference games like there are in the SEC.

Among the conferences (these are listed after the team ratings), the Pac-12 and Big Ten were almost tied for a distant third, but they’re both rather top-heavy.  The ACC is more split along divisional lines, and obviously the top ACC team took a big hit out of conference.  At least the ACC is still one of the top five conferences.  There is a big separation among the non-Power-5 conferences though.  The American, the Sun Belt, and the independents are leaning toward respectability, while the CUSA, Mountain West, and MAC lag way behind.

Top 25

RankTeamLast
1Georgia5
2Ohio St.2
3Texas Christian4
4Michigan6
5Tennessee3
6Clemson1
7UCLA10
8LSU13
9USC11
10Oregon9
11Alabama7
12Ole Miss8
13Utah14
14N Carolina St.23
15N Carolina20
16Tulane15
17Penn St.17
18Notre Dame
19Texas
20Kansas St.16
21Coastal Carolina
22Syracuse18
23Florida St.
24Troy
25Liberty24
Illinois12
Oklahoma St.19
Oregon St.21
Wake Forest22
Maryland25

Week 9 Top 25 and Final Thoughts about Saturday

In College Football, College Football Playoff, General LSU, Preview, Rankings, Rankings Commentary on November 3, 2022 at 5:42 PM

I’ll have some things to say about LSU at the end, but a one loss team playing a two-loss team obviously takes a back seat to the match-up of unbeatens (Tennessee/Georgia) in Athens on Saturday. The two games will likely decide the participants in the SEC Championship Game (although Ole Miss will also control its own destiny if Alabama beats LSU), the winner of which has made every College Football Playoff thus far.

I didn’t want to put either one #1 at this point, but I do think it’s likely that whoever the winner is will pass up Clemson, who barely hung onto #1.

Top 25

RankTeamLast
1Clemson1
2Ohio St.5
3Tennessee2
4Texas Christian3
5Georgia4
6Michigan7
7Alabama6
8Ole Miss9
9Oregon8
10UCLA12
11USC10
12Illinois17
13LSU13
14Utah21
15Tulane18
16Kansas St.
17Penn St.15
18Syracuse11
19Oklahoma St.14
20N Carolina23
21Oregon St.22
22Wake Forest16
23N Carolina St.20
24Liberty19
25Maryland25
Troy24

Top 25 Comments

The Tigers did slip in the computer rankings, which is normal after a bye week, but I’m still including a subjective component.  Clemson also lost some ground due to losses by Wake Forest and Syracuse.

I have been calculating percentages of the best rating (after my input) every week without publishing them, but I really wanted to emphasize it this week.  The closest team to Clemson last week was Tennessee, who had 88.99% of Clemson’s score.  This week, there are five teams who are closer to Clemson than that:
Ohio St. 99.83%
Tennessee 99.59%
TCU 98.17%
Georgia 97.96%
Michigan 90.42%

After some difficulty in the first quarter, the Georgia defense easily contained QB Hendon Hooker (6.6 ypa passing and 0.4 ypa rushing) and the Tennessee offense in a 41-17 win last November in Knoxville. Tennessee was a much different team though, having entered the contest at 5-4. Just as last year, the Bulldogs enter the Tennessee game undefeated.

With the top teams this closely packed, it’s much easier for a team to jump from #3 or #5 to #1.

The other teams aren’t playing the most impressive opponents either.  Clemson plays Notre Dame, Ohio St. plays Northwestern, TCU plays Texas Tech, and Michigan plays Rutgers.  The only one of those with a winning record is Notre Dame, who is unranked at 5-3.  The Irish are the only one of the four who is even close to the top 25.  Northwestern is one of the 10 worst teams in my ratings.  Clemson is only as highly rated as they are with my subjective input, so it should be particularly easy for Tennessee to become #1 with a win.  There is a little bit more uncertainty with Georgia; but I think when I add my subjective input, it would be enough to for them to move up to #1.

Ohio St.’s win over Penn St. gave them more points than Tennessee’s or Georgia’s (or TCU’s) wins last week, but obviously that will be balanced out on Saturday.  Michigan didn’t play a good team, but it’s better than not playing any team, which is what Alabama did.

Most of the shuffle at the bottom of the rankings can be understood by the recent wins and losses.  The only particularly remarkable change was Kansas St., who enters at #16; but I was very skeptical about them given the loss to Tulane.  Also, the win over Oklahoma St. was by far their best win.   

The only team to fall out was Troy, who did not play last week.  It can be difficult for teams from the Sun Belt and similar conferences to get enough points to stay in the top 25 week to week.

CFP Reaction

I’m glad I wrote about Alabama earlier in the week and waited on the rankings so I could mention the CFP rankings.

First of all, I really don’t like how the media overhypes these.  It’s not any kind of serious drama or dispute if Tennessee is #1 and Georgia is #4 or the other way around.  Whoever wins Saturday will be ahead.  The loser Saturday will still have a decent chance if they go undefeated.  I do think it’s right to value one win over Alabama and another at LSU more highly than what Georgia has done thus far.  It’s great that they blew out Oregon two months ago, but that shouldn’t count for more than two big conference games in the last month.  Also, if you give Georgia credit for margin of victory over Oregon, you should take some credit away for Missouri and Florida.

LSU is 10th, and I don’t think they’re that good; but there is an expected loss coming.  I think if LSU wins they should definitely be in the top 10.  If LSU finishes with three losses or fewer, they’ll be in a decent bowl.  That would be true if they were #8 right now or #12, which I think would be more appropriate.

Alabama is #6, and I don’t see what the problem is there.  We all know if Alabama has one loss and is the SEC champion (If they finish with only one loss, they’re guaranteed to be the champion; and it would take multiple bizarre results for them to win it with two losses) they will most be in playoff.  I don’t see what the gripe would be with Clemson, Michigan, or Ohio St.  Michigan of course plays Ohio St., and Clemson at least would pass up the loser of that game and at least the loser of the SEC championship.  I’ll be surprised if TCU finishes the year undefeated anyway; but even if they do, we can expect a lot of upheaval around them.  So again, I don’t think anyone is “snubbed” or has a reasonable grievance yet.

LSU/Alabama Final Thoughts

I wasn’t going to elaborate further after the previous blog about the Alabama/LSU game, but now that I’m discussing the teams, I did want to draw attention to a new entry of a vlog I mentioned before, “College Football Nerds”.  I don’t always appreciate what they have to say, but I at least like what the second guy said.  Alabama winning by a touchdown seems like the most likely single outcome.

I am not expecting a great defensive struggle though. Some people thought that about Mississippi St., Ole Miss, and Florida.  The only game that really was a defensive struggle was Auburn, but I don’t think that’s likely to repeat itself.  If the LSU offensive is ineffective, I think eventually the defense will be overwhelmed like it was against Tennessee.  I mentioned before that I don’t think Bryce Young is Jaxson Dart or Robbie Ashford or Will Rogers where the defense is going to crack the code and Alabama will suddenly be unable to score for 40 minutes or whatever.

LSU QB Jayden Daniels suffered some knee problems, which seemed to limit his confidence and his ability to keep plays alive, and left the October 1 game at Auburn early. Daniels has not seemed similarly affected in subsequent games.

Too much was made of the Auburn game.  LSU did give up a fair number of yards in that game, but they were just on a few plays early on.  Auburn’s inability to have sustained drives was still an issue.  Also, LSU’s lack of passing yards in that game probably isn’t applicable to other games either.  They were in extreme ball control mode that they will not be in against Alabama unless LSU has a lead well into the fourth quarter.  It was also that way because Jayden Daniels was playing hurt and then started having trouble walking, so Brian Kelly took him out.  The coaches don’t trust Garrett Nussmeier, the backup, to throw downfield.  As long as Auburn couldn’t score, there was no reason to allow him to.  Alabama won’t go 40 minutes without scoring like Auburn did.

Then the hosts of College Football Nerds tried to bootstrap the Auburn game into the Tennessee game to make it seem like it wasn’t a unique circumstance.  One of them said something like, “Sometimes you get the Auburn/Tennessee LSU, and sometimes you get the Ole Miss/Florida LSU.”  Just because they were both low scoring outputs for LSU doesn’t mean they were similar games.  LSU had 300 passing yards against Tennessee and 80 against Auburn.  LSU got well into Tennessee territory multiple times, but they were never in a situation where settling for field goals or trying to focus on ball control made any sense.

It’s also not really surprising that the LSU offense seems more comfortable at home.  There are multiple transfers, including Daniels; and there are two freshmen on the offensive line not including the primary receiving tight end.  Nonverbal communication doesn’t take place as well with players who are less familiar with one another, and verbal communication is a challenge in a hostile environment.  This happened on both sides of the ball in the Auburn game especially.  That was LSU’s first true road game.

If this game were in Tuscaloosa, even though LSU has historically done better there than in Baton Rouge, Alabama should be favored by 14 or more.  Alabama also can be a different team on the road than they are at home.  The game could play out exactly like the Tennessee game did, so I’m not saying to bet the farm on LSU beating the spread; but I think if that game were played 10 times, that would have been one of the largest margins of victory.  Every key moment went against LSU.  Alabama seems like a similar team to Tennessee.  It was just luck of the draw at the end between the field goal kickers, and the game was in Knoxville.  I don’t see any way at all the game Saturday looks like the Auburn game though.